Dear Joe:

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Where in Scripture do you find that smoking a cigar is a sin?

"Does not even nature itself teach you that long hair on a man is sin?"

If one, by the simple facts of nature, is incapable of observing that smoking is injurious to the body, that one is to be pitied.

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What proof do you have that C.H. Spurgeon “knew” that cigar smoking was injurious to his health.

You are no doubt familiar with Spurgeon's disagreement with Ironside about the issue of smoking. Apparently Ironside knew it was a sin.

As if the conviction of the Spirit and commonsense were not enough, my friend, I would further contend that the Medical Community of Spurgeons time was well aware of the harmful effects of smoking, though not to the depths of modern science. Therefore, for you to plead ignorance of the matter is most sad my friend, and for you to accuse me of falsly pointing out Spurgeons error is even more grevious.

Is it because you smoke, Joe, that you are blind to these things? Have you made it down to the cancer ward of Tampa's largest hospital and walked down the isles and seen those who have been operated on for cancers of the oral cavity and throat, many of whom will tell you that they never inhaled, some of whom didn't smoke at all, but "only" dipped snuff, or chewed tobacco. Might be a good idea to speak with some of them too, the ones that can still speak that is. No, the problem is well documented sir, nor is it a modern phenomena only.

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What proof do you have that Spurgeon over ate and did not simply have a gland problem or slow metabolism?

I have none whatsoever, specifically, with respect to Spurgeons case, Joe, but I base my observations,rather, on: 1) the common knowledge that such "gladular problems" are very rare,and "slow metabolism" as you put it, is what everyone who ages suffers from, thus demanding that they eat less than they did when younger to maitain a healthy body weight. 2) Spurgeon, by his own admission, smoked for relief from his labors and the stresses of a most demanding and difficult ministry, and the vast majority of people who overeat do so for the same reasons, as neurotransmitters which create pleasure sensations in the brain are released when we eat, smoke, drink, shop, fish, or do anything that we desire to do, 3) knowing a bit of the nature of fallen man, I don't believe Spurgeon was above error in these areas. Do I "know" that he over ate? No, but is there reason to believe that he might well have? Yes.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not sure what your point was exactly, but if it was to prove that Spurgeon knew about the dangers of overeating and spoke against them, that does not surprise me, I don't think it requires modern science to establish the obvious; if it was to prove that Spurgeon was a great and wonderful man, who knew physical and mental suffering in great meassure, you don't need to prove that to me as I knew it already, and I love and admire him greatly, but he like all of us, was just a man.

In Him,

Gerry