Tom<br> There is one thing I have learned about Arminians, they rarely argue from a factual basis. Election is a concept that is thematically developed throughout scripture and one must pay attention to all that the Bible says about it not just a verse here or there. When Hunt's book, which by the way is just a regurgitation of Giesler's book, stoops to misrepresentations, character assassination, and ad hominen attacks it is proof of the shallowness of his arguments.<br>I might also add, that the reason he and Giesler both saw the need to try to either co-opt or denounce the great reformed thinkers in the way they did is because they know the weight which these mens thoughts and teaching still have in the church today. You will notice they didn't refer to any of the "great" Arminian "thinkers" to buttress their arguments. Anyone who has taken college speech knows you don't win a debate by basing your whole argument on the attacking of your opponents positions. <br><br>Michael
