Pilgrim, I guess I am addicted to your forum (“beating a dead horse”), and answering this post. I pretty much agree with William Hendriksen’s commentary on 1Tim. 2:15, I must not of made my point clear, so let’s try again. If we just take 1Timothy 2:11-15 and didn’t investigate Scripture and the Greek (i.e. Joe), one could believe that women are saved by bearing children. Which as you, others (forum) and Hendricksen’s, have explained in a rational way, is not true. Yet, what if the beginning of the passage (vs 11-12) is referring to a married couple and what if the passage can be explained to mean “continuously teach (I know Joe, “didaskein” by itself can not mean “continuous”, but at least two people I have read from, say it can, contextually) and usurping the authority of the husband or man”, then the admonition is not as simple as it reads. Let’s say, that indeed that is what the text says, “I do not allow a woman to teach a man…”. Ok, is it just spiritual Bible teaching? Can my wife or a woman friend, teach me to balance my check book correctly? Again, without a broad understanding of Scripture, the novice may stumble here by what the passage says and actually means. Which brings up another issue Pilgrim; what do you do with Christian women who come to this site and correct men who may have written something not to their liking; is this teaching men and usurping their authority? Should the bouncer Elder, ban her from the forum? Another hypothetical (or not so) situation; my wife is quite knowledgeable on the specifics of Temple of Solomon, should I throw her out of the Bible Study or severely chastise her, if she corrects me on the actual articles that are found in the Holy of Holies ? Is it ok, if I ask her the answer in front of the men in our group? Hopefully, you can readily see, that this whole issue of women being silent and not teaching men, can have some serious implications of legalism, if one is not careful. In my case, I will go on being the “antinomian, feminist, disobedient and Scripture twisting” person many already believe me to be (though I don’t think of myself that way) and let women speak in Church (singing, praying, etc)and teach men under certain circumstances that doesn’t usurp their authority or diminished God’s glory in His Church. This will really be my last post, at least for several days, I am going camping. California is still sunny, unlike those poor folks in Florida. In Christ love, George