Tom,<br> Thanks, it certainly seems to be the case with the synod. Their official doctrinal stand on redemption reads as follows " we reject any teaching that says Jesus died for only some people<br>as unscriptural....." and then in the section on salvation they say that God has chosen some from the foundation of the earth. Then in the section on faith they say only by God's sovereign gift to those he has chosen can anyone exercise faith. It is quite confusing.<br><br>In His name and by His grace,<br>michael