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Pilgrim said:
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Henry said:
Perhaps I missed it, but I've read van Til's article twice and I still can't find the transcendental argument in there.
That's very odd, since Van Til is the man who made the Transcendental Argument popular. That entire article is painted on the canvas of the TA. It wasn't meant to be a theological or philosophical apologetic but rather it is how the TA is expressed in a very practical way. In short, Van Til was saying that there is no truth apart from God. And, one cannot comprehend God without first believing upon Him. Truth assumes the nature and existence of God as He has revealed Himself. One cannot even "deduce" God without first assuming that He is and that all things are of His doing.

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In His Grace,

Hi Pilgrim,

I somewhat agree with Henry's point. I am fairly familiar with the article you linked too and have read it a number of times in the past, and although I do see the transcendental argument in the article, I was looking for a more technical description of the argument. If I remember correctly, a few years ago there used to be a short article by Van Til floating around the web that discussed the transcendental argument in more "philosophical" terms. I tried searching for it last week, but was unable to find it. I think the name of the article was along the lines of "The Transcendental Proof for God". I imagine it was actually an excerpt from one of his books as opposed to an actual article though. On the other hand, I could just be imagining things about the existence of that article.

I really like the transcendental argument though and think it makes a lot of sense, but sometimes I think even it has somewhat of a subjective part that I don't like. Personally, I find the most sure proof of God to be the Bible since it is God's testimony about himself. If God is truly God, then his word (testimony) about himself is absolute proof of his existence. Of course, due to the depravity of the human nature, though, only by the Holy Spirit are we able to accept God's word for what it truly is. What are your opinions of this like of thinking?

John