<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Didn't know you were going to be that picky</font><hr></blockquote><p> [color:red]Picky</font color=red> or [color:blue]Proper</font color=blue>? <br><br>We have allot of Arminians dropping in, by their own "free will" [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh[/img] (free-agency maybe a better term), who would contend and state the order you had in your post--[color:red]God knows and ordains</font color=red>. They, unlike you, would refuse to change the order (i.e. [color:blue]God ordains and knows</font color=blue>), being like Boethius. I am sure you remember that he attempted to reconcile God's sovereignty and foreknowledge and man's free-will by saying that "time" (past, present, and future) where "always present" before God and thus God's sovereignty is that He merely foresees what will happen, past, present, and future, as in the present, but He does not sovereignly foreordain anything. Thus, he was not being picky, but setting the terms in their proper order to keep any confusion from resulting.....<br><br>Hope this helps.

Reformed and Always Reforming,