Overall, rereading your post I understand where you are coming from and I don't think we are that far apart. I do think the denominations I mentioned (but especially the NRC)are high Calvinists not Hypers.

I think as total-depraved beings our hearts are not broken easily and if the narrow way is truly narrow I think we need to remain watchful and sober yet hopeful and faithful.

I apologize if I came off too judging but I do believe God is the same today as yesterday. The saints of the Bible and early church probably did not take their eye off the ball or engage much in the trivial nor were they much distracted, so from that pov I think some of what may be covered by so-called 'liberty' accounts for much that is trivial or even distracting and does in no way bring us closer to God, I guess I'll leave it at that.

Last edited by AC.; Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:41 PM.

The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine