Come on Jeff,

you're simplifying my argument (and over-simplifying the NRC's position on these matters to a certain extent)and overlooking my finer points, also I think you are letting your emotions get the best of you.

I'm not judging or condemning you especially for the things you mentioned (although I never heard of cribbage). And I think you are using fantastic exaggerations to maybe wake me up. Only God knows the heart. So if I want to spend some trivial time playing a board game or doing a puzzle with my children I don't believe that says everything about what lies in my heart but if I'm in a fantasy football league I do think that is telling where my priorities lie (not that that is the final word on the matter) When do we reach a point where we trying to serve God AND Mammon instead of walking thru this life as pilgrims.


I thought I made 2 excellent points that you did not acknowledge

one on Calvin (do you lay such a serious claim against him - explain) and the other on the saints of Biblical times and their level of commitment and how God has not changed.

I'm not saying all things indifferent are sinful and condemning, but I am saying if we are indifferent we will be condemned and I wonder how many are truly committed to God - me included, my faith is often not in exercise. How often I try to balance serving 2 masters but I know God does not want me to put anything before Him.


I'm not trying to change your belief on these matters.

Maybe you can touch on those 2 points and have the final word, thanks!

AC


The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine