Originally Posted by Pilgrim

1) Here are a few more passages which I think give more than ample evidence that Christ will return bodily. Matt 24:30, 25:31; Mk 13:26; Lk 21:27; 1Thess 1:10, 4:16; 2Thess 1:7-10; Rev 1:7

2) I'm curious to know the reason for the question to begin with?? scratchchin
Its one of our most important doctrines and it deserves to be supported with the Scriptures. Here at the Highway I recon we agree that the notion of Christ returning to 'set up His kingdom' is dismissed out of hand.

The standard citations are often weak, right now I need to get to work so I'll put up a question for one of your examples.


1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

4John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

If v 7 refers to the Second Advent how do you account for v 1 and 3?

A more general question but one that is directly related; Why would Jesus have much to say about an event thousands of years future to the men who were yet witness the cross and resurrection ?

Marxism is the opiate of the academy.