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#47425 - Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:27 AM
Re: BestEvidence
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1Thess 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
Is the 'wrath to come' the Destruction? I would think that refers to an historical event or set of events rather than eternal judgment. It could be the wrath described here;
Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Im pretty sure we agree the Destruction is in view in this passage. I disagree that 1:10 is referring to a contemporary destruction which would take place during the time of Paul's writing, but rather it is referring to the eschaton, the second and final physical return of Christ when the entire world, including every human being, will receive the just judgment of God. Isn't this what Paul writes about to the same Thessalonian believers and all the elect (1Thess 1:1-4; 2Thess 1:1) here: 2 Thessalonians 1:5-12 (ASV) "[which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God; to the end that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: if so be that it is righteous thing with God to recompense affliction to them that afflict you, and to you that are afflicted rest with us, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with the angels of his power in flaming fire, rendering vengeance to them that know not God, and to them that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus: who shall suffer punishment, [even] eternal destruction from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be marvelled at in all them that believed (because our testimony unto you was believed) in that day. To which end we also pray always for you, that our God may count you worthy of your calling, and fulfil every desire of goodness and [every] work of faith, with power; that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ."
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