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Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:11 PM
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I'm quite confident that I have understood your view and the point(s) you are trying to make, which even you admit differ from what most everyone on this Board holds to be true. So, my point is that there is definite and clear difference in the views which you hold concerning the relationship of the written Word of God and experience and that which we hold to. In short, I do believe that what does not exist here is a communication problem that might be due to semantics, etc. From what I have read from you, there is this insistence to bifurcate "experience with God" from the objective written Word of God. For example you wrote: In reply to: THAT is real experience, and while it may well (and often does) come in a scriptural quote, it also comes other ways.
If I may be so brash as to summarize your thoughts here as, God "speaks to us" through His written Word, BUT, He also speaks to us apart from His written Word as well. Further, those who are in true communion with God are "guided" by Him "spiritually" as He "speaks" to them which is not necessarily bound to the written Word. And even further, there are "spiritual truths" which cannot be found in the written Word, but can only be discerned by one's "spirit". Have I summed up your view accurately?
While it cannot be denied that there is a clear difference between "experience" and the objective "written Word of God", it must be maintained that ALL experience must be subjugated to the written Word. Neither is the written Word to be interpreted by experience. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (ASV) "Every scripture inspired of God [is] also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness. That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work."
Colossians 1:9-10 (ASV) "For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it], do not cease to pray and make request for you, that ye may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;" And, while I await your reply in regard to the accuracy of the summation of your view, you might avail yourself of this article by Louis Berkhof here: What is the Word of God? I would encourage you to read it because in it, there is much relevant information in regard to neo-Orthodoxy, Crisis Theology, Karl Barth and this issue of "experience vs. the objective written revelation of God". In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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What's wrong with Charismatics?
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:52 AM
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Just a thought...
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Anonymous
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Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:05 PM
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Wes
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Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:58 PM
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Anonymous
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:17 AM
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Pilgrim
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:36 AM
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Simply scripture...
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Anonymous
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:58 PM
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Re: Simply scripture...
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Pilgrim
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:22 PM
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A brief apology.
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Anonymous
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:53 PM
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Wes
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:02 PM
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Anonymous
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:00 PM
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EDIT: Link partially fixed
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Anonymous
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:46 PM
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Re: As promised.
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Wes
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Pilgrim
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Anonymous
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:52 PM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:03 PM
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A partial response (more to come).
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Anonymous
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:34 PM
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Re: A partial response (more to come).
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Pilgrim
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:12 AM
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2 Questions:
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Anonymous
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:06 AM
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Pilgrim
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:03 PM
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I will respond...
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Anonymous
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:49 PM
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Jason1646
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:28 PM
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In other words...
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Anonymous
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:47 PM
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