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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] 3. Do you believe that when Paul said this, that he was operating under the movement of the Holy Spirit:<br><br>" I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied:..."<br>I Corinthians 14:5<br><br>If so, what has changed? </font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>This is reminiscent of one of the arguments used by Roman Catholics for oral tradition. They point to Paul's command to the church at Thessalonica to hold fast to the traditions by word and epistle and impose that command in a one-for-one fashion upon all churches today. It is true that every word in Scripture is profitable for doctrine, reproof, training in righteousness, etc., but it does not mean that every imperative given in a particular historical context is a perpetually abiding principle upon the church today in precisely the same way. In the case just mentioned with the admonition to hold fast to the verbal testimony of the apostles we would say in response, "Show me an apostle and I will hold fast to his verbal testimony." But the reality is that there are no apostles today and so this command to hold fast to the oral traditions is an impossibility for us to keep in precisely the same way as the church at Thessalonica, though we do keep it in principle since we believe nothing is lacking in the written testimony left to us.<br><br>So the answer to your question is similar; what has changed is that there are no more apostles, and hence the peculiar gifts of the apostolic ministry (2 Cor. 12:12, Heb. 2:4, et. al) have ceased to take place.<br><br>Sincerely in Christ,<br><br>~Jason
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What's wrong with Charismatics?
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Just a thought...
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Simply scripture...
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:22 PM
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A brief apology.
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EDIT: Link partially fixed
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A partial response (more to come).
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:12 AM
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2 Questions:
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:03 PM
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I will respond...
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:28 PM
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In other words...
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