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Judas and Peter #13160
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In Matthew 27:3,4 my NIV says that Judas repented and was filled with remorse. Then he hung himself.

Now I know there is a huge difference between Peter and Judas, but how do we account for the words 'repent' and 'remorse' with regard to Judas? I know that Judas was lost, because Christ says so. What then was his repentance and remorse about?


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There are differences in their repentance--worldly sorrow vs. godly repentance:

2 Cor 7:9-10 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.


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Eleanor,

Perhaps the following text will give you a little hint and push in the right direction? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Hebrews 12:16-17 (KJV) "Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears."


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Re: Judas and Peter [Re: Pilgrim] #13163
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I do understand, but I am trying to come at this as one who might in teaching someone who does not. What do I say to the person who responds, "Well, but it records that Judas admitted that he sinned, and that he repented, that he tried to return the money."

On the face of it, here is what my response would be: "What is the result of that 'repentance'? Let's compare it with that of Peter. Both men sinned. Both wept over it. However, we see that Peter was emboldened to wait for and approach the Lord and receieve forgiveness. He did not lose hope, with the help of the Spirit. On the other hand, we see Judas, who despaired and took his judgement into his own hands, not being emboldened to receive judgement from the Lord, or being enabled to faith to wait for an opportunity to approach the risen Lord."

Do you think that is a fair overview of the matter that takes both of your ancillary Scriptures into account?


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