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A Protestant Bible? #13587
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:08 PM
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According to "The Trail of Blood", Baptists are not Protestant and Jesus was their founder. If Baptists are not Protestant, than how come they use a Protestant Bible?

[Linked Image] Note: I do not agree with "The Trail of Blood"

Re: A Protestant Bible? #13588
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Most Reformed Baptists I have read reject that teaching.
From what I can tell, I have not been able to trace Baptists roots before about 1630.

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If Baptists are not Protestant, than how come they use a Protestant Bible?
Anyone can use a Protestant Bible, but that does not make them Protestant (i.e. Mormons).


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Re: A Protestant Bible? [Re: J_Edwards] #13590
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I hadn't thought of that...lol [Linked Image]

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I'd be interested in reading the totality of that document for content. Is it online? I ask this because I agree with Tom, in that the Baptist movement is much later. If this is not true, maybe somebody can answer this thread

Who Departed?

Or maybe somebody who actually believes that pamphlet could actually come explain it to us. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


God bless,

william

Re: A Protestant Bible? #13592
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K2P sticking my head into an oven doesn't make me a sticky bun. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Neither does using a bible (protestant or romish) makes one denomination or the other.

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Yes, it is available online. Just do a search on Google for "The Trail of Blood". [Linked Image]

Re: A Protestant Bible? #13594
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All right William here is a link to the trail of blood
Trail of Blood

But I would also suggest that you read these too which are in my view superior to that.

Baptist the only thorough reformers

A Primer on Baptist History: The True Baptist Trail by Chris Traffanstedt

yours,

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I attended the same school as Kalled2Preach for the two years prior to tis one. I had read the pamphlet, but know it is not a sound one. I used to be a Baptist. This is why I have repeatedly asked questions and posted threads concerning this matter. I read through this link

Baptists the reformers

and I found so much to disagree with, and so much subjectiveness to it, that I could never believe much of it. However, I also read this document

Baptist History

and I agree that the Baptists are not part of the original church of Matthew 16:18. They are a movement started much later out of a new hermeneutical methodology. That's what I have come to believe, and if I am wrong, please show this here

Who Departed

and show us how the Baptists had it right all along.


God bless,

william

Re: A Protestant Bible? [Re: Tom] #13596
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Aren't Baptists in some ways descendants of the radical wing of the Reformation, i.e., the Anabaptists?


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I would suggest that you read this:
A Primer on Baptist History: The true Baptist Trail by Chris Traffanstedt

I would say that gives the best answer to that question.

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I attended the same school as Kalled2Preach for the two years prior to tis one. I had read the pamphlet, but know it is not a sound one. I used to be a Baptist. This is why I have repeatedly asked questions and posted threads concerning this matter. I read through this link

Baptists the reformers

and I found so much to disagree with, and so much subjectiveness to it, that I could never believe much of it. However, I also read this document

Baptist History

and I agree that the Baptists are not part of the original church of Matthew 16:18. They are a movement started much later out of a new hermeneutical methodology. That's what I have come to believe, and if I am wrong, please show this here

Who Departed

and show us how the Baptists had it right all along.


God bless,

william


Well you may believe what ever convinces you William. Although it appears to me that your issues with the Baptists stem from your history with them and not their hermeneutic. However in their defense I quote Luther: (modified) "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. God help me."

yours,

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Thanks! Good reading. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


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Thanks, you beat me to it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

By the way, the Reformed Reader is a site that I frequent.

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Well you may believe what ever convinces you William.


No, I must believe what the scripture teaches and has been upheld throughout historical Christianity. However, your statement works for you as well.

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Although it appears to me that your issues with the Baptists stem from your history with them and not their hermeneutic.


I appreciate the attempt to peek into my personal preferences, lifes experiences and mental issues, but I'm not sure we know each other that well. Let me re-assure you, this is not the case. I remain friends with several of the people I attended baptist bible college with, as well as old charismatic friends as well. It trully is the hermeneutic and lack of historical truth that bothers me.

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However in their defense I quote Luther: (modified) "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. God help me."


Luther quoted himself. Maybe you're just the theologian to tackle this one then

Who Departed

please?


God bless,

william

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