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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1467
Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:27 AM
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Kim,<br><br>Here are some excellent links for you to read about Reformed Worship and the regulative principal.<br><br><br>Worship in the Melting Pot by Dr. Peter Masters<br><br>Biblical Worship by Kevin Reed<br><br><br>Enjoy! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin[/img]<br><br><br>Wes<br>


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: Wes] #1468
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Thanks!


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1469
Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:51 AM
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Kim,<br><br>I cannot refrain from commenting that Reg Barrow and Kevin Reed's views (interpretation) of the "Regulative Principle" is, IMHO, extreme. Dr. Master's book, Worship in the Melting Pot, is far more in accord with the biblical teaching on worship. As I hope you are aware, there are several chapters from his excellent book on The Highway which you can access here: Worship Series<br><br>In His Grace,


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1470
Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:56 AM
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Kim,<br><br>As Pilgrim has pointed out Barrow and Reed are ultraconservative. However I think they are a good study anyway and make many good points as compared to what many American's call worship today.<br><br>I respect Pilgrim's opinion so be prepared.<br><br><br>Wes


When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: Pilgrim] #1471
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I am starting with the Worship series and may start a thread to discuss it if I have any questions. Thank you both for your help.


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1472
Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:58 PM
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Kim,<br><br>I think that is an excellent decision on your part! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/evilgrin.gif" alt="evilgrin" title="evilgrin[/img] Realize also, that the "Series" that I have online is only PART of the actual book itself, Worship in the Melting Pot. There are several other chapters which deal with such subjects as "Instruments in Worship", etc. If would contact the Metropolitan Tabernacle using one of the references that appear at the bottom of any of the pages online, I'm sure they will probably send you a copy of the book. When I asked them what the price was for this book should someone inquire about it, they didn't say. It could be that they are distributing the book for free........ but don't quote me on that! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img] It would be worth contacting them, regardless and obtaining a copy for yourself. IMHO, it is a great book. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile[/img]<br><br>In His Grace,


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: Pilgrim] #1473
Tue Mar 25, 2003 5:02 PM
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Here is an interesting link on Master's book:<br><br>Worship in the Melting Pot


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: li0scc0] #1474
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]And why use the word "Mass" if we are not "re-sacrificing Christ?"</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>I do hope you realize that the word Mass <span style="background-color:yellow;">[Middle English masse, from Old English męsse, from Vulgar Latin *messa, from Late Latin missa, from Latin, feminine past participle of mittere, to send away, dismiss.]</span> has nothing to do with sacrifice. It is only your perception of what the liturgy portrays that makes it seem that.<br><br>Never the less I really didn't get an answer from you with regards to what the biblical source for your liturgical tradition.<br><br>And please don't quote to me the regulative principal give me scriptures for the table, etc..

Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: Pilgrim] #1475
Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:37 PM
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Having read through about half of the material provided here on the Highway wrt Worship in the Melting Pot, I logged back in to ask about the content of the rest of the book. You have anticipated my request! I found it on amazon for $10.79 and am placing my order tonight.<br><br>This is something that has been impressed upon my heart increasingly. I love my church but a Biblical refrain continues to run around in my head during the "praise and worship" portion of our service; "God is Spirit and they who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. "In spirit and in truth!" That is my heart's cry. I weep when I consider the awesome, transcendent majesty of our Lord and God and I long to please Him in all my ways. I feel like Isaiah in the temple--undone in His presence, having unclean lips and living among people of unclean lips. <br><br>I am going to sign off, go back to Amazon and order the book, and read the rest of the article that I printed out. In the meantime, is there anyone here who attends a church that affirms and practices the regulative form of worship? If so, would you be willing to share with me how that informs your worship and what your service is like? I have so much to learn. . .<br>


Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine
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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: Pilgrim] #1476
Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:41 PM
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Oh, I forgot to ask, would you recommend Pleasing God in Our Worship by Robert Godfrey and James Montgomery Boice?


Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine
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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: J_Edwards] #1477
Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:49 PM
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Thanks, Joe! It's getting late here in the Eastern time zone, but I have bookmarked your site and will spend some time there in the morning! Looks good!


Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine
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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1478
Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:19 PM
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I hope you have not already ordered it.<br><br>Trinity Book Service $7.50<br><br>CBD $9.99<br><br>


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1479
Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:20 PM
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Kim,<br><br>You can read that booklet here: Pleasing God in our Worship<br><br>In His Grace,


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: J_Edwards] #1480
Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:39 AM
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Too late! I did order it before retiring last night! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/hairout.gif" alt="hairout" title="hairout[/img] I ordered the pamphlet, too. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin[/img]<br><br><br><br>


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Re: Reformed Episcopal Denomination [Re: gotribe] #1481
Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:09 AM
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Sorry, I did not get to you on time.


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