I don't remember how I found this site, but I did. It's in my favorites. Well, I was just reading some of the footnotes and such and I came across something they call a contradiction. They ask whether or not man has free will and they put the Scriptures that say yes next to those that say no. This is interesting.
I've seen this site but it was a while back. I think the interpretation of the passage upholding free-will is in error.
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Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (KJV)
This is indeed a choice laid before all mankind. The passage does not declare that man will choose contrary to his nature. The assertion begins with a false understanding of mans will.
My father said one of his professors in Seminary used to say over and over " Never deny the true validity of the Secondary Agency of man"
I think he is using "Secondary agency" much the same way Spurgeon would have used "free agency"
Man is given a choice to make based upon Gods revealed will, yet all has been predetermined, and is known by God in His secret will. ( Gods secret will is unknown to man).
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Almost comparable to 'engaging mouth, and then thinking".
That site is stupid. Glad its in your favorites.. cause it isn't in mine. I went to one spot where he wondered: "is it 10-11, or 12 apostles".
I think even my 7 year old could explain to him
"Well sir, Judas went out and hung humself-- 12 minus 1 equals 11. "
"Thomas was absent when Jesus appeared-- Eleven minus one equals ten"
The writers of the gospel began referring to themselves as 'the eleven' after Judas' ungraceful 'exit stage left'.
I would think that somewhere in his past, he had a bad experience with Christianity, or the church. He probably hardened his heart, and has been hardening it ever since. One could only hope the Lord would soften it up, and allow him to see the 'folly' and 'stupidity' of his ways... not to mention the waste of bandwidth.
Thanks for showing me that site Puritan-- I just think the guys got weak arguments.
Last edited by Aslans Singer; Sun Dec 26, 20041:01 AM.
Oh the guy is a real goofball. But it is sometimes interesting to see what a non-Christian with feelings obviously against religion has to say about a text to help in explaining it to someone in the same position.
I also found it interesting that even a non-Christian can tell that man obviously doesn't have libertarian free will based on the Bible.
