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#21761 Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:27 PM
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What are some of the favorite Pretrib proof texts and how do you answer them?

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Dispensational Pretribribulationism is more of a system than a scattered source of proof texts. Typically one main point is that the church is mentioned throughout the first three Chapters of Revelation, and then not again until the end of the book of Revelation. Many others as well, that the Church was not started until Acts Chapter 2. Also that the entire Old Testament does not refer to the Church, but to Israel.
Incidentally most Jews I have spoken with are much less "offended" by Dispensational Premillenialism as it, at least, allows the Old Testament to keep its original meaning.


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Tom,

Briefly, the dispy system of theology sees a fundamental distinction between Israel and the church. They see less (way less) continuity in the covenants then the covenant Reformed system, et. al. However, one must different between classical dispensationalism and the new progressive Dispensationalism (which sees more unity in the covenants).

You could discuss several issues; the church mysteriously disappears from view in Rev 3:22 only to reappear in Rev 19, thus making most of the book irrelevant to the church today. Then you have the case of MANY judgments instead of just the ONE that Scripture speaks of, and/or the situation of multiple resurrections. You have the problem of a “silent rapture.” Yea, like 1000s will disappear and nothing will be heard, though Christ comes with a shout…. They have a severe misunderstanding of Rev 20:1-6, which is answered here on the Highway with several articles and other posts, etc. Rev 20 is the pivotal point of having a correct eschatology!

Any good Systematic will discuss this issue along with the "proof texts" you desire.


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