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Re: Luke 16:19-31 [Re: Peter] #28352
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Is Stott a heretic? If so, should we burn him on a stake?Geomic

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Is Stott a heretic? If so, should we burn him on a stake?Geomic

No need to get crass just because you have embraced at least one heretical doctrine as have others. Stott undeniably has embraced heresy with his view on Annihilationism, but whether he should be ranked as a heretic is another matter. And pray tell, where in Scripture does it say that any heretic should be burned at the stake? I going to go out on a limb here and guess that you also err in believing that now popular and novel notion that John Calvin is somehow guilty of the death of Servetus? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Luke 16:19-31 [Re: geomic1] #28354
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Is Stott a heretic? If so, should we burn him on a stake?Geomic


Well Geomic lets go to the Word of God.
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"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
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God judges those outside. "Purge the evil person from among you."
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Let's see now according to scripture with regards to Stott I first go to him in private and try to win him over, and by win over I believe it means to speak to him in a winsome manner regarding the error. If he won't repent of the error I am commanded to take two other believers with me and again try to win him over using their help. If he persists I take it to the church and here I would say the local assembly is what is being spoken of. I would lay the matter before the elders with the testimony of the two witnesses. At that point it is up to the elders of the local assembly to visit him and reason with him so that he would return to the fold. If he resists them then we are to treat him as a person who doesn't understand the things of God. If he was an elder then I think excommunication, again with the idea of getting him restored to the community of saints, is called for.

Let me review this quickly, nope, no burning at the stake at all. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Ponder.gif" alt="" />

BTW I see by your profile you list John Hagee, Robert Schuller, and Benny Hinn as your favorite authors. Perhaps you got the idea of burning at the stake from them? You know I'd really watch out reading their stuff they are the unholy trinity of "christian" writers.

OBTW J_Edwards has been so kind as to remind me that the person I was speaking of was Rudolf Bultmann and not Bullmon. Thanks JE.

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Re: Luke 16:19-31 [Re: Peter] #28355
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I was just messing around to see if anyone actually read the bio's, obviously they do. I have never read anything other then quotes from them by others showing their total lack of spiritual understanding.
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Servetus did come to mind, but after I wrote my statement. I am under no delusion that the milieu of John Calvin and Martin Luther (and other individuals of the Reformation period) was different then today. They (as you know), had to deal with the civil laws that were mixed together with that which is spiritual(state and church) causing a very difficult affair for the leaders of the true Church. Martin Luther sounds down write racist (in regards to the Jews) if one is ignorant to the fact that in those days, Germans were being put to death for their heretical views, that for the most part the Jew of that period were exempt from, though they were the epitome of antichrist in thought in Prussia at that time. My problem with your forum, is that a difference in opinion is seen, almost automatically as heretical instead of simply aberrant. Which is pretty scary, thus my statement about Stott, who in my opinion is solid in the faith (not necessarily including his view of hell).
This will be my last response on this forum, but I do want you to know, that I do respect the regulars who reside here. I have never been on a Christian forum like this, where the majority is so knowledgeable of their faith. For this I commend you all.

In Christ Alone, George (Geomic1)

Re: Luke 16:19-31 [Re: William] #28357
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I gave a terrible interpretation on Luke 16:19-31 and yes I can now see that it is a parable.
My pardons I will be more careful with my FUTURE posts. D.v.


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Re: Luke 16:19-31 [Re: geomic1] #28358
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This will be my last response on this forum, but I do want you to know, that I do respect the regulars who reside here. I have never been on a Christian forum like this, where the majority is so knowledgeable of their faith. For this I commend you all.

In Christ Alone, George (Geomic1)


George,

It's been interesting! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" /> I think in many of your responses you played the devil's advocate just to mix things up a bit. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/dizzy.gif" alt="" /> You enjoyed that didn't you.<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/spin.gif" alt="" />

Your always welcome to return to the Highway. Especially if you come to learn. Thanks for your kind comments in parting.


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When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
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