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The Third use of the Law #33611
Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:53 AM
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Where might find some defenses for the third use of the law? I am discussing this with another blogger and he denies the third use. For those of you who care to read this see this:
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Regarding that last on Jeremy used a quote from Martin Luther so I thought turn about was fair play and used some quotes from the Lutheran Confession.


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If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Peter] #33612
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Nicely done! I haven't figured out the relevance of that picture of Khan in the third use of the law, however...

I've always summarized the Law as an elucidation of the demands of love.

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Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Peter] #33613
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Where might find some defenses for the third use of the law?

Regarding the last one, Jeremy used a quote from Martin Luther so I thought turn about was fair play and used some quotes from the Lutheran Confession.

1) There are LOTS of articles that explain and defend the 3rd Use of the Law here: Praxis.

2) This "Jeremy" wouldn't be the infamous, "Kalled2Preach", would it? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Pilgrim] #33614
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Pilgrim,

I don't think this is the same "Jeremy." The guy you are thinking about has a blog here:

http://www.xanga.com/APuritanMindset

Unless I miss my guess, this is another man--and I'd say that even if I had not found "Kalled To Preach's" blog again, based on different styles and content. But it would not shock me if I was wrong. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Theo] #33615
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Theo,

I think this is the infamous "Kalled 2 Preach" because he lists his wife as Auni and he comes from southern Indiana.


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Where might find some defenses for the third use of the law? I am discussing this with another blogger and he denies the third use.


Horatius Bonar wrote:

"But will they tell us what is to regulate service, if not law? Love, they say. This is a pure fallacy. Love is not a rule, but a motive. Love does not tell me what to do; it tells me how to do it. Love constrains me to do the will of the beloved one; but to know what the will is, I must go elsewhere. The law of our God is the will of the beloved one, and were that expression of his will withdrawn, love would be utterly in the dark; it would not know what to do. It might say, I love my Master, and I love his service, and I want to do his bidding, but I must know the rules of his house, that I may know how to serve him. Love without law to guide its impulses would be the parent of will-worship and confusion, as surely as terror and self-righteousness, unless upon the supposition of an inward miraculous illumination, as an equivalent for law. Love goes to the law to learn the divine will, and love delights in the law, as the exponent of that will; and he who says that a believing man has nothing more to do with law, save to shun it as an old enemy, might as well say that he has nothing to do with the will of God. For the divine law and the divine will are substantially one, the former the outward manifestation of the latter. And it is "the will of our Father which is in heaven" that we are to do (Matt. 7:21); 50 proving by loving obedience what is that "good and acceptable, and perfect will of God" (Rom. 12:2). Yes, it is he that doeth "the will of God that abideth forever" (1 John 2:17); it is to "the will of God" that we are to live (1 Peter 4:2); "made perfect in every good work to do his will" (Heb. 13:21); and "fruitfulness in every good work," springs from being "filled with the knowledge of his will" (Col. 1:9,10)."


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Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Wes] #33617
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Wes,

Bonar's quote is magnificent. But let me add one more by John Owen who summed it up quite succinctly with these words:

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"Without absolutes revealed from without by God Himself, we are left rudderless in a sea of conflicting ideas about manners, justice and right and wrong, issuing from a multitude of self-opinionated thinkers."


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Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Wes] #33618
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I think this is the infamous "Kalled 2 Preach" because he lists his wife as Auni and he comes from southern Indiana.


Wes,

We're talking about two different Jeremys, though. The one Boanerges is interacting with lives in Tennessee and has this blog:

http://doxoblogy.blogspot.com/

The one who is Kalled2Preach and has a wife named Auni has this blog:

http://www.xanga.com/APuritanMindset

Yes, this IS confusing! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bananas.gif" alt="" />

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Well what's suppose to happen is that as the mouse goes over the picture of Khan a little pop up appears with "He tasks me!" in it. I know its a bit geeky, not to mention trekky but he I'm attempting to put a bit of my own quirkiness into this. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bigglasses.gif" alt="" />


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That's good I'm going to have to use that.


Peter

If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
Re: The Third use of the Law [Re: Pilgrim] #33621
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Was Kalled2Preach's last name Weaver? I don't think it was and so I doubt that this is the same person, first of all he is too reasoned in his defense. That alone denies that.


Peter

If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo

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