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If any one knows of any reformed churches in the Salem Oregon area please let me know.
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Bill W
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Bill, It might be worth your while to check out this church in Salem, Oregon Immanuel's Reformed Church is a United Reformed Church located in Salem, Oregon, U.S.A.Affiliated with: Classis Western Canada Former Name(s): Independent Reformed Church of Salem Important Dates: Organized 1991, Joined URCNA 1998 Worship Service Times: Sundays 11:00 AM and 6:30 PM. Address: (Church Location) 4653 Sunnyview Rd. N.E., Salem, Oregon 97305, U.S.A. Telephone: (Voice) (503) 581-6764 E-Mail: lnlodder@comcast.netWeb Site: http://www.immanuelsreformed.orgMinister: Rev. Eric W. Tuininga Wes <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />
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Wes,
After reading through their beliefs, that URC congregation appears to be an excellent place for Bill to at least visit, as they also encourage people to do. At least on paper, they appear to be biblically based and Reformed.
Bill: I hope you will pursue this when you are able to do so. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Thanks I will have to drop by for a visit I'll let you all know how it goes.
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Bill W
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Bill,
The United Reformed Church is excellent (I am personally prejudiced here). The URC has only been recently (late 1990s) established and is growing very rapidly (not in the mega-church sense). Many, but not all of the Christians there have migrated in disgust from the liberalized Christian Reformed Church and have rededicated themselves to Reformed teaching and principles. They know very well what it is like to have the Scripture dishonored and misused by ecclesiastical apostates for the sake of a worldly agenda.
Please give this Church a visit. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />
Denny
Romans 3:22-24
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There's also a PCA church Evergreen Church 299 Cottage St. NE Salem OR 503-371-1177 evergreenchurch@msn.com www.evergreenchurchofsalem.com Pacific Northwest Rev. Stephen P. Lewis There's also one congregation in the Confederation of Reformed Evangelicals Trinity Reformation Church (2003) 2642 Yosemite CT NE, Salem, OR 97305 Phone: (503) 371-3923 or (503) 656-9444 E-mail: Marty Allen Web Site: www.trcsalem.orgMeeting At: The Oregon Room of the Comfort Suites 630 Hawthorne Ave., Salem, Oregon.
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Sorry to inject my opinions here based upon my observations from reading the information provided by Evergreen Church, but I would avoid this church for if no other reason than this: 2) Historical & Relevant -- Traditional worship is frozen in time, copying an earlier model, stuck in another century. Contemporary worship is frozen in the present, mimicking the pop culture of the last few decades. A church that draws from each century since Christ would be a 2000-year-old church. We desire to be a 2000-year-old church from day one, recognizing that we are shaped by the past and must communicate in the present. This church appears to want to "please" both young and old by intermixing the tried and true biblical worship with that of contemporary worldliness. If you look closely at the photo you will see a "band". <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/puke.gif" alt="" /> It's not a matter of "historical vs. relevant" but rather worship is to be biblically based. If our forefathers got it right, then it's right.....!! Truth doesn't change with the times. Truth is eternal and truth originates with God and His infallible Word. Just because something is old, aka: historical, doesn't automatically make it stagnant and something to be avoided because one doesn't want to be "stuck in another century". <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" /> Compare that to what Trinity Reformation Church says about its worship here: Lord's Day Services at Trinity Reformation ChurchWe at Trinity Reformation Church enjoy what most folks call a "traditional" worship service, and, no, we do not have a "contemporary" service as well. We do not believe that worship styles are a matter of preference, but rather, a matter of biblical command. Although since the cross we are able to draw nearer to the Lord than the people of God were before (Heb 10:22), there are still warnings for those who would draw near unworthily (Heb 10:26-27). The punishments that accompany these warnings in the New Testament are even said to be worse than those in the Old Testament (Heb 10:28-29)! Thus, if it was important for the saints under the Old Covenant to be careful how they drew near to God, it is even more important for us under the New Covenant to be careful. If we are drawing "nearer" to the Lord, then we have an even greater responsibility to do it in the way that the Lord commands (cf. Heb 2:1-3). This church appears to have a godly fear of God; a reverential attitude which is of the Holy Spirit. Of course, this does not automatically warrant an endorsement of this church, but it surely makes it worthy of serious consideration and a visit. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> In His grace,
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Pilgrim,
Did you notice that Trinity is affiliated with the CREC? I much rather contend with a band, than the teachings coming from a CREC church.
John Chaney
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John_C said: Pilgrim,
Did you notice that Trinity is affiliated with the CREC? I much rather contend with a band, than the teachings coming from a CREC church. And could you explain what it is you do not like about the CREC? After returning to the website and clicking on "Links", I see they are associated with the CREC. I am assuming that this would mean that they espouse either NPP or FV (Federal Vision) heresy, correct? Re: A church with a "band" is no choice for me. In His grace,
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Yep!
Whether or not they espouse those teachings and others like Theonomy I cannot say, but they would be friendly to those who do, at least.
All I'm saying is looking conservative (biblical-speaking) may not always be conservative. And, there are those who may be contemporary looking but solid conservative in their teaching.
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John_C said: Whether or not they espouse those teachings and others like Theonomy I cannot say, but they would be friendly to those who do, at least. Yes, they would be and most likely are friendly to those who do espouse the heretical teachings of "FV". That alone would cause me to avoid that church. John_C also said: All I'm saying is looking conservative (biblical-speaking) may not always be conservative. And, there are those who may be contemporary looking but solid conservative in their teaching. I can agree with the first part but I have to disagree with the second. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> If it walks like a duck . . . then it's a duck. A church cannot be "conservative" in its teaching and practice contemporary worship for of necessity one has to hold to a low view of God and Scripture in order to allow for worship that is contemporary; i.e., as we currently know it. Now, you may disagree, but dats der vay I sees it. God is not pleased with anything less than that which glorifies Him as to His nature and attributes according to the truth as it is found in Scripture. Singing mindless mantras (aka: praise choruses) displayed on an 8' giant screen with an electric band on stage is hardly reflective of God's majesty and inexorable holiness. (cf. Ps. 2:11; 89:6, 7; Hab 2:20; Zach 2:13; Heb 12:28, 29; Rev. 15:4) In His grace,
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