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Re: Biblical Courtship #4231
Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:42 AM
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] Did not Paul say that to be single is a good thing for a man to be ? </font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Yes, but his comment was associated with the present distress of his day:<br><br>1 Corinthians 7:26 I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress -- that it is good for a man to remain as he is <br><br>Now there are people who "become eunuchs" for the kingdom of heaven's sake, and that is fine, but we ought to consider it the normal rule that Christian men and women would desire to get married and raise godly children. It seems to me that if someone is given the gift of celibacy, then its intention is to use it for full-time ecclesiastical work (perhaps a good source for missions work).<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] Here is some food for thought : There were no children in the Garden of Eden. </font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Adam and Eve were commanded to be fruitful and multiply, which is one of the purposes of the institution of marriage. What was it you were hoping for us to think about with this?<br><br>Sincerely in Christ,<br><br>~Jason

Re: Biblical Courtship [Re: Jason1646] #4232
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Hi Jason.<br><br>There were no children in Eden PRIOR to the Fall.<br><br>Tis but an interesting thought - no dogma intended.<br><br>I am married by the way. No children - thank the Lord.<br><br>howard

Re: Biblical Courtship #4233
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Hi Howard,<br><br>Yes, I did not receive your observation in a dogmatic spirit, I was just truly trying to understand the "interestingness" of the thought (i.e. relevance) in connection to the thread. I would say first and foremost the absence of children prior to the Fall would be more associated with the redemptive purposes of God to have a race of people all descended from a fallen Adam. Furthermore, it would seem to be an indication that the fall took place relatively soon after Creation.<br><br>Sincerely in Christ,<br><br>~Jason

Re: Biblical Courtship #4234
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Linda,<br><br>I thought you thought that. I just wanted to hear you say it. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile[/img]<br><br>Blessings,<br><br>Ron

Re: Biblical Courtship #4235
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Howard,
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[color:"blue"]No children - thank the Lord.

Would you mind elaborating on your reasons for thanking the Lord for having no children?



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Sure thing Paul.<br><br>I could"nt take the heartache parenthood could entail.<br><br>howard

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Doesn't that seem like an odd statement though, that I would not teach my girls that they are the Lord's children. What did you think I might be teaching them?<br><br>Anyway, good communication is lost through email at times.

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No children, thank the Lord? WOW. What a statement. I do remember the scriptures saying that "children are a heritage of the Lord, and again, blessed is the man that has his quiver full of them! While children don't make you any more spiritual, they surely don't make you any less. I am sad to see that particular comment. I have six, thank the Lord!<br><br>Linda

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I thought you were teaching them that God was their spouse.<br><br>Ron

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nor the blessings. <br><br>God has redeemed us as sons and daughters, and I think because I have had the kind priviledge to raise children that I have learned the lessons of what it truly means to be a daughter of the King. I do think your harshness toward others who differ from you is a testimony that you have never raised children. You can stand for truth without bashing or slaughtering the character of others. This is a lesson we teach our children well.

Re: Biblical Courtship [Re: Wes] #4241
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]You grumpy ole fart if I were your kid I'd be afraid to even look at the opposite sex for fear of your tendencies.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br><span style="background-color:yellow;">Curmudgeon: A crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas</span><br><br>I'm sorry I thought you knew this was in my profile. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin[/img] But all seriousness aside I don't want my daughters to marry someone like me, why should they experience the frustrations their mother has I ask you? I wouldn't mind some Godly reverent men who are proper in their decorm and have the best interests of my daughters in mind. And of course they must beat me in hand to hand combat (There can be only ONE). After all I must know that they can protect my daughters completely. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img]

Re: Biblical Courtship #4242
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Prestor,<br><br>Yes! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/yep.gif" alt="yep" title="yep[/img] I know your profile and also appreciate your protective tendencies. I just wonder if youre ready for someone just like yourself to show up and ask your daughter's hand.<br><br>You may be looking for someone more perfect than yourself and find out that your daughters see many strengths in you that you have not mentioned. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin[/img]<br><br><br>Wes


When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
Re: Biblical Courtship #4243
Thu Jul 31, 2003 10:53 AM
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dear Howard, were is your Faith? It is God that gives us our children, it is also God that will help us to raise them when we are beggars at His Throne. No, it is not going by it self, the growing up I mean. Since the best place to be [color:red]for a born again christian is at His Throne</font color=red> we believe that He will give what we don't have. Praise Him Our God.


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Re: Biblical Courtship [Re: willemina] #4244
Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:14 PM
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Well said: "Where is your faith?" I am glad God coolly ignored my fears of having children in order to give me the two not-entirely-perfect-but-still-joyful- blessings that I have today. I would be a sadder, more selfish person without them.<br><br> "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us" Eph. 3:20


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Re: Biblical Courtship [Re: willemina] #4245
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Willemina, please dont worry about my faith. It is looked after very well.<br><br>It is indeed God who gives children. God also decides who cannot have children.<br><br>I might add that it is God who gives some the choice whether to have children or not.<br><br>Christ Jesus Rules.<br><br>howard<br><br><br>

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