The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Preaching the truth

Many people talk for a better world which will be free from sin or all bad things but no definite way for reclamation they can show most of the time. but God has shown ways to human being to be in the right track and how to connect with him for a divine life though most of us are not aware of it.

If you love to study all religions of the world and take part in a nobel mission of preaching the truth of almighty, lets join and work together.

We want to go door to door for preaching the truth of God beside earning our bread and butter with our own labour. we expect many sacred hearts from every religion who may come and join with us and meditate the truth revealed by different God sent books and then help reclaim the sineers. Please share your valued opinions how we can start and continue this work worldwide.

We Christians are very much aware of "a better world which will be free from sin, etc."... It is called the New Earth upon which God's beloved elect will dwell in perfect peace with God. (Isa 25:8; 35:10; 60:20; 61:3; 65:18,19; 1Cor 15:54-58; Heb 2:14,15; 2Pet 3:10-13; Rev 21:3-5; 22:3)

It is true that even during our existence on this current earth a person may have "connect with Him for a divine life" in a manner of speaking. When the Holy Spirit of God comes upon one predestined to eternal life and regenerates the soul, then that person comes to be united with Christ, repents of sin and believes upon Him. Consequently, that individual is joyously reconciled to God and made to be a partaker of the 'divine nature' (2Pet 1:4). That person is also freed from the penalty, presence and power of sin... in part, having that new nature which yearns after holiness and hates all that is sin. Although perfection is never achieved here on earth, it is nevertheless that which the redeemed of God strive after.

And just what is "preaching the truth of almighty"?? We believe, of course, that there is but one truth; propositional truth which God Himself has spoken and preserved for all men to know in the Christian Bible. The Gospel, which is found in that Bible is the message which is to be preached to everyone throughout the world. (Matt 28:18,19) But what is this "truth" which YOU think we should join you in preaching?

Can you please list at least some of these "different God sent books" from which the "truth" is to be found?

Thanks! And welcome to The Highway Discussion Board.

Dear Pilgrim,

I am happy to see your kind reply and appreciate your queries.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and pharisees,you hypocrites! you build tomb for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous..so you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.Fill up,then,the measure of the sin of your forfathers!"(Mathew 23:29-32)

Yes brother, not only christians but also many people with different religious identity are aware of sin beacause this term is readily available in all religion books. But it is more important to practise the good things mentioned in those books in real life than have a well furnished book with many more teachings. thats why churches, mosques, temples and other religious organizations have been established with saints or preachers. Remember no oracle came from God ever to form different religions! Jesus the great soul also never told anybody to divide christians in different groups like Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and some others. sometime we see all of them are claiming them christians but hate each other due to the difference in beliefs and practice. Did Jesus preached the good news in different forms to different groups so that different community may form and start quarell?never.but it is we who have made it for our own interest.thats why quarrell is growing.

I am telling you for unity. God sent books means the books revealed by God through his prophets. like Veda, Old Testament, New Testament, holy Quran. Our main problem is we start hating others sometime before knowing them correctly.also for few evil people we consider their religion bad!it is not fair to hate a doctrine only for few evil doers. what Bible says other mentioned books mostly supports. our goal is to preach that common truth and make people united regardless community or religions. the more you read you will get more knowledge that can be useful for the greater welfare of mankind.we hate fundamentalism as it is damaging the world.

I think we all know who is the almighty. he is God. Jesus said,
"Not everyone who says to me'Lord,Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.Many will say to me on the day,'Lord,Lord,did we not prophecy in your name,and your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'Then I will tell them plainly,'I never know you.away from me,you evil doers!'(Mathew 7:21-23). I am telling about this almighty God whom Jesus called father.truth of that almighty means what he really wants from his creatures and the way to connect with him. I also believe that holy spirit may come upon an adorer of God. but we have to achieve that much of holyness and take us to that stage when holy spirit may come to us. It is not so easy and like a spell that we may get it very easily. we claim manything but it is the fact that do we really deserve those?

Our main problem is, we start worshipping the teacher as soon as he disappears but pay very little attention to his teachings.

Will have more discussion in future if God want.

May God bless us!

chakrabortty

I have a few questions for you.

You have mentioned quite a few different religions.
Do you believe that there is more than one way to get to heaven?

Do you believe that if someone says Christianity is the one true religion; that it means that they hate others?

Is truth objective or subjective?

One thing that comes to mind when you mention the Quran is the fact that it mentions Jesus as a great prophet, but not God. It even claims that Mohammed is greater than Jesus. The Bible however, says that Jesus is God.
It should be obvious that one of these books is wrong; which one is?

Jesus said: "Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father but by me." John 14:6

Tom

My dear Tom,

I am happy to see your kind queries. Thanks to you first.I am trying my best to answer your questions bellow:

1)No. I don't believe that there is more than one way to heaven. There is only one- the way of one and only God. think of a sea; a number of rivers flow in different ways but their destination is one. finally they all connect with the big sea. that way our soul one day will mix up with that supreme soul or infinite whole whom we call God, Allah, Bhagban and in different names. Now you may ask that what is that way of God? Isn't it revealed through bible? Yes. It was not only revealed through bible but also other holy books I mentioned. But everyone's aim is one-to know the God and mix with him finally. Jesus came to fullfill the doctrines past to him and taught truth to the people. He came to reclaim the people from sin. but did all the people reclaimed through his preaching? no. thats why another prophet was sent by God through the Ishmael dynasty. you know when God instructed Abraham to banish Hagar and his son to the desert at the same time he commited that he will give attention to Ishmael next to Isaac. From Isaac's Dynasty Jesus came and last of all Mohammad came from Ishmael's dynasty. It is God who love his creature and alert them from growing sin before damaging them. That's why he sent Mohammad in that time of numerous sin. In Srimad Bhagbad Gita Krishna telling to Arjuna, When evil deeds devours good deeds and the world become full of sin that moments of every edges God send his correspondent to make the way of God coreect and straight.

2) In my first post I never claimed that if anyone says christianity or his own religion 'true'that it means that they hate others! I was trying to make the point that, we should not hate others or their religion before studing or realizing them truly. You may find many fundementalist who meaninglessly oppose others though they have very litlle or no knowledge at all on the issue! I am telling about that persons and humbly requesting them not to do so. It just increase conflicts and make people distracted from the original religious truth.

3)After studing the theory you can go for practical. Truth is always objective but you have to fix your object extracting it from the subject. why some people renunciate for God? Can't they get the truth by being with his own family or rituals? In fact when subject is extracted and then the truth come to the adorer and as per that realized truth they set their Godly object. All are not blessed with divine knowledge from the craddle.but for the succeess here and here after we need to acquire that knowledge before going to grave. Thats why we take the subject as elementary stage and when get the elements gathered like a garland we get freed for the ultimate object.

4) My dear please read the holy Quran with attention. you will no where find that it claims Mohammad greater than Jesus! but will find many verses telling the grandeurs of the great soul from God, Jesus Christ. not Quran but some hollow people do this claims. they spoiling a lot of time by making quarrell that who is great or greater but not aware of the preactising of their teachings in their own life.

Now come to Bible. At the ninth hour when Jesus was crucified he cried out in an loud voice, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"(Mathew 27:46) See,Jesus remembering God during his death also and alwyas he used to remember the almighty god! So, did Jesus claimed himself the God? My dear brother, time has come to stand on the right point because Jesus will appear again and for the last time and may again tell: "Not everyone who says to me'Lord,Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.Many will say to me on the day,'Lord,Lord,did we not prophecy in your name,and your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'Then I will tell them plainly,'I never know you.away from me,you evil doers!'(Mathew 7:21-23).

5)Yes Jesus said: he is the way, the truth, and the life; Its true he is a way shown by God, he came with the truth and the message of life. Let's practise that divinity and teachings. lets try to collect all the haphazard flowers and make a nice garland.

May God bless us!

Where do I start?
I better not respond right now, because if I did I would probably blast you.
I have a feeling that when others read what you say, they will not have as much restraint.

Tom

It may be true that different religions are "aware of sin", however, Christianity defines sin in a far different manner than all other religions, including its origination. This difference is essential for the remedy, aka: salvation, rests firmly upon that foundation. For example, the Christian Bible states that God created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman on earth. Adam was the federal head of the entire human race and thus upon his shoulders rested what would affect all. Sin, according to the God of the Bible is the "transgression of the law"; God's law (1Jn 3:4). Secondly, Jesus Christ is the "second Adam" Who came to redeem those under the curse of the law, to save those who were under condemnation due to the first Adam's transgression (1Cor 15:22, 45; Gal 3:13). So you see, a general acknowledgment of "sin" does mean there is a common bond between all religions. A denial of the biblical account of the creation of man, his transgression, the purpose of sending Christ and redemption in His blood is to deny true salvation and to contradict what the one true God has said.

And what "good things" are you referring to? And further, to what benefit is it to do those good things if one is under the wrath of God? Doubtless other men may benefit from acts of beneficence or kindness, but they are all as "filthy rags" in God's estimation (Isa 64:6). In fact, it is utterly impossible for any human being, outside of the Lord Christ, to do a "good thing" because all men are sinners.

Agreed, that there is no warrant from God to form different religions, etc. However, it was His divine will that there would be factions, even within the true Church. The apostle Paul wrote of this very thing:

1 Corinthians 11:18-19 (ASV) "For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also factions among you, that they that are approved may be made manifest among you."

But isn't this contradictory to what you have been trying to say here? The fact is that there are vast differences of "truth" between all religions, sects and cults. ALL claim to have the truth and thus there must be a natural division between them. The only way to avoid these divisions is to deny absolute truth, which is exactly what the post-Modernists do; truth is relative... whatever is true for you may not be what is true for me, but that isn't of any importance. What is important is that we just get along together.

Hmmm, don't you see the insurmountable and indefensible problem with this statement? If the one God (I'm assuming you believe there is but one true God?) sent all these various "prophets" whose writings became all these various "holy books", then what you are saying is that God contradicts Himself at best or is a liar at worse. These prophets wrote many things which are antithetical to each other. So, what is one to do with all these conflicting statements?

Once again, you are wanting unity without holding to propositional absolute truth. Let me give you a very simple but critical example. Christianity holds that Almighty God has revealed Himself as the one true God who exists in three persons; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. No other religion holds to that view. So, from the very start, there is a major problem as to the very identity of God. How can you hope to have unity when there is such a drastic difference in regard to who the true God is?

There is a biblical word for those who redefine Christ .

If you people don't like my presence in this forum definitely I will quit.

I may let people know what I have realized through my adoration but accepting or rejecting your prerogative. If I am telling truth, once you will surely realize. Please don't make your mind rude. When Jesus preached to the Israelites many religious leaders and pharisees not only refused him but also gave many pains! It is common for every preacher.

If I am true you will have proof or wrong will see me punished. from God's end.

Debate never helps human being to get the way of truth but it push to sin. Just read all available religions of the world beside the holy Bible if you can. Do meditation in right way so that your unsolved matter may be solved and wait for the day when Jesus reappears.

I have no intention to collect some donation or building fund by this preaching. I only expect my reward from God if I deserve so. So I just sharing my realization and inviting the interested ones to work together for the greater welfare of manklind. If you have the blessings of God with you it will must be bloomed like a flower with your behaviour.

May God help us everyday in each and every way.amen..

I may let people know what I have realized through my adoration but accepting or rejecting your prerogative. If I am telling truth, once you will surely realize. Please don't make your mind rude. When Jesus preached to the Israelites many religious leaders and pharisees not only refused him but also gave many pains! It is common for every preacher.

I can give thousand of quotations to oppose your opinion and you also can quote thousands. but all those are waste of time unless we realize the innercore of truth.

If I am true you will have proof or wrong will see me punished. from God's end.

Debate never helps human being to get the way of truth but it push to sin. Just read all available religions of the world beside the holy Bible if you can. Do meditation in right way so that your unsolved matter may be solved and wait for the day when Jesus reappears.

I have no intention to collect some donation or building fund by this preaching. I only expect my reward from God if I deserve so. So I just sharing my realization and inviting the interested ones to work together for the greater welfare of manklind. If you have the blessings of God with you it will must be bloomed like a flower with your behaviour.

May God help us everyday in each and every way.amen..

Chakrabortty

I personally don't have a problem with you participating here, providing you obey the rules of the site.
The reason I chose not to respond directly to your earlier post is because if I had done so at that time it would have been less than charity.

Perhaps it might be best if you answered what Pilgrim had to say in his latest post.

I just want to state openly that the Bible most certainly does claim that Jesus is God. This is directly opposed to what the Quran says. Unless of course Muslim’s don’t understand their own book.

Tom

Personally Im glad you came in. I with Tom, so long as you stay within the rules you are welcome , same as me . Im also with Tom in suggesting you respond directly to Pilgrim's post.

That said I wish to inform you as gently as I can that the New Testement gives the only valid defintion of who and what Christ is and any deviation regardless of how it is framed and or stated , that is contrary or altered will not go unchallenged.
Jesus occupies the seat at the Right Hand of Power, co-regent and the equal of the Father, and the Holy Spirit. I dont believe any version or interpretation of the Quoran will support this. Or that Jesus died and was raised up on the third day.
Im sure you are familiar with these things , and that these are some of what is untouchable.

Take care

H

Like yourself, members here are somewhat free to express their views and feelings. However, you shouldn't be so quick to take offense from what one solitary individual has written in his response. We have Administrators and Moderators on this board who oversee its operation and who are the ONLY ones who have any authority to determine what is allowed and not allowed. Unless one of those individuals, of whom I am one, expresses to you personally that you are not wanted here, then it would be best if you ignore such suggestions from others.

Tom was out of line, as far as I'm concerned, in one of his replies to you. He was presumptuous to think that many or most of the members here would respond to you in a less than amiable way. I think you will find that his assessment is not accurate nor representative of most of us here. As an Administrator, one of my duties and desires is to 'keep the peace' if at all possible and to make sure the [font:Comic Sans MS][b]Guidelines[/b][/font] are followed.

Lastly, depending upon the 'thickness of your skin' you will have to decide whether such responses are warrant to no longer participate or visit here. Wouldn't one of the "good things" which you are advocating we all adopt and practice be Jesus' admonition to "turn the other cheek" (Matt 5:39; cf. Rom 12:17-19; 1Cor 6:7; 1Thess 5:15; 1Pet 3:9).

chakrabortty,

It would be helpful if you would attempt to answer some of my questions and concerns. If you can give a "thousand of quotations to oppose your (my) opinion", then why don't you pick a few from them and offer them to me? For you to do so would, of course, go far in proving my point exactly, that there are many, many contradictory statements in all the world's holy books both when compared to each other and even within themselves with the exception of the Bible which contains no self-contradictions, mistakes, or errors. This is one of the important facts which shows that the Bible is truly the written Word of God which came through God's inspired prophets and finally through the Son of God, Jesus Christ incarnate and His apostles (2Tim 3:16,17; Heb 1:1; 2Pet 1:19-21).

Doubtless, I would have to disagree with your rejection of debate as being something less than helpful or valuable. Hearing different views and their defense is most helpful as it causes one to think... something people rarely do these days. If you believe that you can combine all religions into one by extracting what you feel are the "good things," then surely you should be willing to defend that view and show that it is God's will not only for you but for everyone, right? If nothing else, I would really like to know how you decide what is a "good thing" from all these holy books. You must have some criteria which guides you to choose things and reject the rest. So, what are your guidelines that you follow?

Dear pilgrim and all,

God bless us.

This is probably my last post in this site because most of the time beside my profressional career I try to spend on the solitary meditation of the one and only God and for preaching to different people so far I can. also most of pilgrim's queries I have answered in my last posts. now want to discuss some common things. Actually I am not so capable to do the work of God. as much God wish I just try to do those work accordingly. God is only one. second to none.not under the rule of death and birth. no thurst, hunger he has nor any physical demand. neither some one has given him birth nor he gives birth physically to any one. If he does so, is there any difference between GOD and his creatures? some time he sends prophets and holy sages to make the people reclaimed from sin. for the help of their work God also bless them with some supernatural powers. most of time we start believing that prophets and holy sages as God themselve as they can do many unbelievable things. It occured before the time of Nuha, Moses, after Sri Krishna, Buddha, Nanak, Kabir and many other great souls. Jesus only did the things as his heavenly father did wish. Is there any doubt? He got dead and realive after 3 days also by God's wish. What power God gave him he applied those only. I think the whole Bible is its evedence.need no quotation! Now what you believe is your choice. Now in my last para I want to tell what I know (may be many other knows);

Let's remove our mind from sin. lets make the way of our God correct and straight.

Don't dream for heaven. It is also not everlasting. Only dream for God who is everlasting.

Jesus will come again sitting on a piece of cloud from heaven though I don't know the time yet. after he comes will select his companion,not from so many divisions but from the people who are preserved for God's work only.

Write it down, that day many church people and other religious organizations will claim that he is not Jesus as he will not go to their church or mosques or temples! but be sure he will be Jesus, called 'son' by God. With those companion he will destroy Diable, Gog and Magog and make people conscious about the heavenly kingdom and importance of reclamation from sin. and that will be the last time.

Pray only to God with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Do meditation to go the depper of spiritual practices.

I don't want to write more. What I know have submitted to you. now it is your personal issue what to accept or reject. My knowledge is very poor. Please forgive me if I have become a reason for disturb to anybody. Pray for me. Will pray for all.

Be happy with divine peace.amen...