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Pilgrim

I apologize to you, chakraborty and the rest of the board for being presumptuous. I should not presume that just because I was tempted to be less than charitable in my replies; that others would do the same.
Thank you for speaking up for the board.

Sincerely
Tom

chakrabortty

I am a little disapointed that you will be leaving us.

I (and I speak for myself only) must say that perhaps being that you are not interested in answering Pilgrim's questions, it might be for the best.

This is a discussion board and for a conversation to be fruitful, it must not be one sided. It does not appear that you are interested in a real discussion.

I pray God's best for you.

Tom

chakrabortty,

From what you claim to "know" and have shared on this discussion board, I must tell you that I must reject your beliefs. They do not conform to what the only true holy book of God, the Bible, teaches. You have a religion which is not of Almighty God and therefore of the real Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Almighty God; Jehovah/Yahweh. Instead of spending the majority of your time "on the solitary meditation of the one and only God" of whom you obviously do not know, you should spend your time reading and studying the one true written Word of God, the Bible in which you will come to learn who the one true God really is. For it is in the Bible and the Bible alone that God has chosen to reveal Himself to mankind. All other religions are idolatrous for they believe in false gods; gods which are the figment of the sinful and depraved imaginations of men.

Isaiah 45:22 (ASV) "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else."

Revelation 21:6-8 (ASV) "And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But for the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part [shall be] in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death."

We shall pray to the one true God, the God of the Bible that He would take mercy upon you and send God the Spirit to you that He may open your eyes to the truth as it is in Christ Jesus, and that you may be convicted of your sinfulness and guilt before God and give you the desire and ability to repent of it. And, that the Spirit would reveal to you your great need of being reconciled to God by believing with a true saving faith upon the Lord Jesus Christ, God come in the flesh. This is our prayer for you. May God be merciful to grant it to the salvation of your soul.

May you have no peace until you are brought to the LORD Jesus Christ Who alone gives true peace.

1 Corinthians 14:33 (ASV) "for God is not [a God] of confusion, but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,"

I think it best if the last word I wish to say to you be spoken by the apostle Paul, one of God's anointed and disciple of Christ:

Colossians 1:9-23 (ASV) "For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it], do not cease to pray and make request for you, that ye may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, unto all patience and longsuffering with joy; giving thanks unto the Father, who made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light; who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins: who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it was the good pleasure [of the Father] that in him should all the fulness dwell; and through him to reconcile all things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross; through him, [I say], whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens. And you, being in time past alienated and enemies in your mind in your evil works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish and unreproveable before him: if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven; whereof I Paul was made a minister."

Dear Pilgrim,

Thanks for your opinion.

I can't help posting an answer specially to your post in few lines.

"Extremism is not the way to know the truth". broaden your heart and if you have to say anything you should let people know it modestly. Think of Jesus Christ and his modesty even to the people who did not believe him.

Finally, we should only wait for the day when everything will be proved that who is right and who is wrong!

By this time I pray for you and wish the sucess of your charity.


May God bless us!

Hi Chakrabortty,

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to The Highway Discussion Board and hope that you might find your time here profitable. You have raised some interesting concerns to which Pilgrim provided an excellent response. I'm glad you feel comfortable exploring further some of these ideas and hope that you will consider what we have to say in response to you.

Regarding your last post, I must suggest that these ideas are not new at all and in fact they were prevalent while Jesus walked this earth and so I will use His words in response to what you have said:

Matthew 7:12–15 "All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby. For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."

This is how Jesus responded. Jesus did not teach that people should have a "broad" mind at all rather He gave warning that anyone teach otherwise was a "false prophet" and a ravening wolf. Would you contradict Jesus by having us be broad minded? Was Jesus "extreme" in His teaching? If so, I would prefer to follow Him and be "extreme" as you put it. Is it "modesty" that saves a man's soul? Not at all! Hear the Word of God pertaining to this matter. There is only one way to find salvation and that is through faith in Jesus Christ (the Jesus Christ that we know through the Bible). John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me."

You said:

Beware of what lies ahead for those who do not have faith in Christ! This day that you speak of is the day of judgement when all men will stand before a thrice holy God and receive justice for their deeds. Pray for your own soul that you might be given eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to believe on Christ alone for mercy on this day. The way is not broad as you would suggest. Not broad at all. Salvation is by faith in Christ alone Chakrabortty and without it, you will not find salvation.

Matthew 12:36, 37 “And I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”

Romans 14:10,12 “…for we shall all stand before the judgment-seat of od. For it is written,
As I live, saith the Lord, to me every knee shall bow,
And every tongue shall confess to God. So then each one of us shall give account of himself to God.”

II Corinthians 5:10 “For we must all be made manifest before the judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he hath done, whether it be good or bad.“

John 12:46-48 “I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me may not abide in the darkness. And if any man hear my sayings, and keep them not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my sayings, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I spake, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

Revelation 20:11-13 “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works.”

Hi Chestnutmare,

What you have written? have you gone through my post thoroughly? you just attacking me but not any open discussion you doing! I think the majority of the viewers who is seeing our post will understand it.

The explanation you wrote for my post is totally distorted. I don't know what intention you have beside it.

What you have written here if was written same by any muslim or other religion people you must said them "Terrorist"! as a human the feelings you have people from other religion may have the same my brother! I see You are not different from the pharisees or religious leaders who gave Jesus pains and told that he has come to demolish the book revealed through Moses!

For the comments like you have made communial harmony is in danger in the world now a days. You may have read the holy Bilbe but I wonder if you have really understood it!

I have nothing more to say.

May God bless us!

chakrabortty

I am a little confused at your response to Chestnutmare.
I have read thoroughly all your posts and what Chestnutmare wrote and what I see from what Chestnutmare wrote is very charitable; unless of course you don't think posting applicable Scripture passages are charitable.
If that is the case, perhaps the problem you have is with the Word of God itself?

The Word of God can at times be very convicting, but to a person who wants to grow in the knowledge of our Lord and bring God glory; they welcome this conviction, because they know that it is meant for our own good. Hebrews 12:6 says “For whom the LORD loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.”NKJV

I am going to ask you to explain in as much detail using what Chestnutmare said, how you came to those conclusions.

Tom

chakrabortty


If I understand what you are saying here, it is a direct response to what you called Pilgrim's opinion.
That being the case, if extremism is trying to stick as close to what we learn from the Word of God alone, then I would be happy to be called an extremist. Knowing that if anything, I am not "extremist" enough.
As I shed the light of the Word of God on myself, it causes me to realize that in myself I am nothing. In Christ alone I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.


Based on what you have written in past posts what you mean by "broaden" means excepting other religious holy books as coming from the same God of the Bible. Yet, that is far from what I see the Bible to say, if anything I need to narrow my heart towards the Bible alone and seek to bring Him glory, through word and deed.
Then as I talk to others about the Gospel, I will be doing it through the love that can only come from God.

Tom