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#51626 Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:26 PM
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I was listening to teaching on the doctrines of grace from some old messages on my Kindle and this teacher, the name escapes me right now said that Abraham Kuyper taught something called Presumptious Regeneration, Have you ever heard of this being taught?


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I was listening to teaching on the doctrines of grace from some old messages on my Kindle and this teacher, the name escapes me right now said that Abraham Kuyper taught something called Presumptious Regeneration, Have you ever heard of this being taught?
Yes, Presumptive Regeneration has been discussed here a number of times. I have always been quite adamant that I reject any and all forms of presumptive regeneration, which there are several. Some make the distinction that children of believers are not baptized on the ground that the children are presumed regenerate but rather on the covenant promises... Yet, they admit that they presume/assume that their children are regenerate until they show otherwise (variously defined).

Although the Dutch Reformed churches are the largest group who actually hold to presumptive regeneration, albeit some insisting they do not, yet the official forms they use clearly teach that all covenant children are regenerate or will be regenerated, (cf. Form for the Baptism of Infants).

From reading MANY discussions on this subject, the idea that baptized covenant children should be presumed/assumed (some like to make a distinction between those two words) regenerate or will be regenerate is widespread through both Dutch and Presbyterian churches.

As an antidote but on a corollary issue; the eternal state of infants who die, or Infant Salvation, to which article I am quite happy to agree. grin


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Thank you for the response and the links that I will certainly get into this week,.. and for the correction in the titled spelling by myself, the audio on the link I was referring to was not as clear as it could have been.


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