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#54356 - Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:00 PM Antifa thugs in Florida  
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I do not recall if any instances of antifa violence in Florida as yet. If they do come as they have in California, I wonder how Florida's "Stand your Ground" law will work out or or if will be used. From a lawyer's web site:

"This law, as codified in Sections 776.012, and 776.013, Florida Statutes, provides that a person is justified in the use of deadly force and has no duty to retreat if either:
(1) the person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself, or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2) the person acts under and according to the circumstances set forth in Section 776.013 (pertaining to the use of force in the context of a home or vehicle invasion)."


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#54367 - Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:24 PM Re: Antifa thugs in Florida [Re: PerpetualLearner]  
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This discussion reminds me of a conversation I had with someone who is trained in marshal arts.
He told me that it is possible in a court of law if even in self defence, the person who he beats up, can win in a court of law. He told me of one case, where a person was attacked and when that person beat up the attacker, the judge fined the one that was attacked, because they could have chosen to run away, rather than fight.

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#54373 - Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:55 AM Re: Antifa thugs in Florida [Re: Tom]  
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There may be some cities in the U.S., more likely in California, that such a thing could happen. But this happening in Canada doesn't surprise me which has laws that require one to "find the nearest means of escape" vs. responding in self-defense, especially with deadly force. For example, if you walked in your front door of your house and saw your wife/daughter being raped, the law requires that you run out of the house and call the police. Not so in 99.99% of the U.S. We have the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws or both existent throughout the country. So, in the above example, or even if someone breaks into your domicile, you are allowed by law to use deadly force. These laws even extend to allowing the use of deadly force off your personal property and if the attack is against another person. These two laws are consistent with biblical teaching. evilgrin


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#54374 - Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:37 PM Re: Antifa thugs in Florida [Re: PerpetualLearner]  
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Just in case it may have looked like I agreed with what the courts say concerning this. I definately do not and although I am getting a little too old for physical violence (if you get my meaning gramps) If I felt it necessary, law or no law, I would use physical violence.
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#54376 - Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:47 PM Re: Antifa thugs in Florida [Re: Tom]  
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When I lived in Canada, my view didn't change. If anything it strengthened my resolve to do whatever was necessary to protect myself, family and others from harm. Just to give you an example of how inane the Canadian laws are, which even police officers told me are ridiculous... An elderly couple who lived 3 blocks from me went to the store to buy groceries one afternoon. When they arrived home, they noticed the front door of their house was wide open. They approached the house to find a burglar in the living room with their portable TV in arms but held at bay by their little Jack Russell Terrier. They immediately called the police who answered the call and arrested the thief. He was charged, went to court, found guilty and sentenced to 90 days (typical of Canadian leniency). But while in jail he hired a lawyer and sued the couple because the dog had bitten his leg when he was inside the house stealing the TV. The elderly couple had to appear in court and a judge found them guilty and awarded the thief a substantial judgment for physical and emotion damages. Consequently, the couple had to sell their home to pay off the amount levied against them.

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#54377 - Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:56 AM Re: Antifa thugs in Florida [Re: PerpetualLearner]  
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There are things I dislike about Canada, However, I have been all over the world and can honestly say I am glad I am born and raised in Canada.

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There are things I dislike about Canada, However, I have been all over the world and can honestly say I am glad I am born and raised in Canada.


So, you are glad to have been born in a Socialist, immoral, profane, idolatrous, God-hating country? I am VERY curious why you are glad you were born and raised in Canada vs. the United States, just as an example? Doubtless, there are many places in this world where oppression and hardships abound. But beyond dispute, those countries where people have more freedom, sin abounds all the more and the people are duped/deceived into believing they are basically good and there is no need for some "god" who would restrict their personal lives.

So, Tom... beyond the fact that British Columbia has some of the most incredible natural beauty in the world, what is it about CANADA as a country that makes you so glad to be a Canadian?

PS. Don't forget that I lived in Canada for 15 years so I do know something about the country. grin


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