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#54496 - Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:45 PM The Church of England Announcement  
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As I do on occasion, I listen to Dr. Albert Mohler’s ‘The Briefing’. Today, among the three topics was: “The Church of England now wants children to bear responsibility to determine who they are”.
https://albertmohler.com/2017/11/16/briefing-11-16-17/?mc_cid=c90c10577b&mc_eid=ab5fb0a16a
Among many things that could be said about this, it is very irresponsible! To say the least.
This is the kind of thing that is starting to become the norm in the World today. The secular world view is gaining ground in many countries. It appears we are going to see a day (if the Lord tarries) where to stand up against laws related to this, will get a parent arrested, or perhaps have their children taken away from them.
I have a question in light of this (assuming it comes to fruition). It is my view that for a parent to allow something like this in their child’s case; would be irresponsible.
How should a parent respond, knowing these things?
I have heard a few parents say, it does the child no good if the parent is in jail, or the child taken away from them.
Understand here, I believe the Lord is sovereign even here and all things work for good… as Romans 8:28-29 says. Yet, I still can’t think of a good way to go in a case like this.

Tom

#54497 - Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:29 AM Re: The Church of England Announcement [Re: Tom]  
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1. No surprise that the Church of England is advocating this "Gender Identity" idea... nor should it be a surprise that any church of individual embraces this current trend.

2. It is not "irresponsibility" that any parent would allow their child(ren) to entertainment such a notion that they can determine what gender (sex) they would like to be/are. nono Call it what it is, Tom; SHEER INSANITY, which is nothing less than the expression of human depravity which Scripture calls sin; a sin against nature itself.

3. If the government was to pass a law that demanded that a parent allow their children to determine their gender and that any attempt to forbid or hinder the child's choice would be punished to the full extent of that law, then a Christian parent would have to resist such a law and be willing to suffer the legal consequences for doing so.

4. The argument, "it does the child no good if the parent is in jail, or the child taken away from them." is nothing less than Situation Ethics (a misnomer if their ever was one, for there is nothing ethical about it), which denies the supreme authority of God and His inspired, infallible, inerrant written Word, which is the sole and final authority in ALL MATTERS concerning faith and practice. Put simply, a professing Christian must obey ALL that the government demands except where it requires a Christian to do what God has forbidden. And contrariwise, a professing Christian must resist what the government forbids where it requires a Christian to not do what God commands to be done.

IMO, what we are seeing today with the way the world is going is just the tip of the iceberg in regard to morality, or better, immorality. Remember, the Light came into the world and the world hated the Light because their deeds were evil (Jh 319,20). Things are going to progress in this direction much more over the coming years. Prepare yourself now, if you haven't done so already. For, the persecution of the true Church and its true members is going to be extremely open and difficult and even where believers are put to death for their faith and refusal to compromise it.


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#54498 - Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:11 PM Re: The Church of England Announcement [Re: Tom]  
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Yes I guess I can agree with you that "sheer insanity", is a more appropriate way to put it.
I am reminded of the what the Biblw says about a parent sparing to rod of correction. If we spare it, we hate the child.
Giving in to an immoral depraved law like this, is saying we hate our child.

I guess, the reason I made this thread is because, sometimes there is a way to deal with things, without using extreme measures.
Not, sure if we can do that in this case?

My pastor has said many times over the pulpit that one of his jobs as a pastor, is to prepare us for suffering.
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