I just came upon something that if true, should be of enormous concern to all Americans. This is something that Charlie Kirk on his show, is talking about.
So we can bomb and reorganize entire countries but we can’t disrupt Islamic ensclaves in our own country? My cynical side leads me to believe this is more about coordinated relocation and destabilization. I guess it’s ok to enable anti-democracy if it’s under our own watchful eye. England and Israel are pretty chummy as well, so if they cared about individual people and law abiding citizens, this could not happen.
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Anthony, to be honest. I am not completely sure of what you are talking about.
It almost looks like you believe there is nothing to this story. It also seems like you don’t believe it, when I said there are entire Muslim communities in England, that have declared unofficial Sharia Law.
That is well documented, but the left denies it and think it is nothing but Islamophobia.
Not saying, I am understanding you properly. However, I would like you to clarify yourself.
I do wonder if these stories about Sharia Law are exaggerated? I mean if Muslims are taking over whole cities I think they could or would be taken care of as needed. Maybe when the Sharia Law becomes “official” in England, we will pressure the UK to eliminate the problem.
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I’m saying either it’s not a legit problem or we are ultimately looking the other way and allowing the problem to get worse. Either way the divides that compromise democracy are being fostered. So who is calling the shots? That’s the big question.
We can support bombing of Iran but can’t help take back London?
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Let me say this. The stories I hear about Muslim communities in England come from mostly Christian sources. The people who are saying it is not happening are from Left Wing Woke. The very people that at times, say that Islam supports the LBGQT+ community.
Hmm.., whom should I believe?
As far as allowing the problem to get worse. It is immigration issue, bringing Muslim immigration people into our countries that is the problem One thing I know for sure is the huge Muslim problem in Germany.
Poland is one of the countries in Europe that did not bring Muslim refugees I and they are doing great.
I believe the Muslim city in Texas that is proposed is called ‘Epic’. However, for some reason, I do not think it will happen under Trump’s watch.
Quite some time ago now, there was a discussion about Islam in the USA. Pilgrim, showed me things from the Constitution that showed the ideology of Islam is against the Constitution.
He also showed me a link about the history of Islam. From that link, it would appear that the West is afraid of Islam.
From what I am seeing where Woke is prominent, they seem like many of them favour Islam over Christianity.
As far as bombing Iran. I was hoping the USA would stay out of that particular war between Israel and Iran.
I have mixed feeling about it. However, it appeared that Trump believed that if Iran was able to get nukes; they would use them. I am told that Trump felt threatened.
I feel like Islam is the gift that keeps on giving for neo-cons and freedom compromisers. When in reality we can take them out at any time when and if they become a problem.
Quite some time ago now, there was a discussion about Islam in the USA. Pilgrim, showed me things from the Constitution that showed the ideology of Islam is against the Constitution.
He also showed me a link about the history of Islam. From that link, it would appear that the West is afraid of Islam.
Here's a couple of links for Dr. Bill Warner's lecture "Why are we afraid to know about Islam?"
I am no fan of Neo-Cons. However, I don’t think it would be an easy task to take Islam out. Yet, the more they infiltrate with their ideology; the harder it will be.
IF <--- you are limiting the "taking out" task to what is legal, then yes it's never an easy process. IF <--- however, the task of "taking out" the problem on a local (neighborhood or city) and the responsibility was given to its citizens, then it would be done in quick order.
There’s ways of justifying these things I guess. There were definitive plans at one time….
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Seven Countries in Five Years [AMY GOODMAN] Do you see a replay in what happened in the lead-up to the war with Iraq -- the allegations of the weapons of mass destruction, the media leaping onto the bandwagon?
[GEN. WESLEY CLARK] Well, in a way. But, you know, history doesn’t repeat itself exactly twice. What I did warn about when I testified in front of Congress in 2002, I said if you want to worry about a state, it shouldn’t be Iraq, it should be Iran. But this government, our administration, wanted to worry about Iraq, not Iran.
I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.”
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Nah, you’re believing a boogeyman. Liberal-Utopia is a much greater threat. God can use that as he can use anything but I don’t see (political or any sort of) Islam having a chance at supremacy.
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To be sure, something like this can only happen if God allows it. Nevertheless, things like this are already happening in countries like England and Germany and there does not seem to be the political will to do anything about it. Not saying it will happen in Texas. However, Charlie Kirk is not the only conservative Trump supporter, who is talking about this.
I’m sorry Tom, I keep going back to 9-11. Do you know there are no video or pictures of the “terrorists” in THE airports or boarding THE planes prior to the attack. There are a few pictures of 1 or 2 alleged terrorists in A random airport (but not the airports the planes supposedly departed from or on that date), no direct links. The evidence should be overwhelming - no date/time stamped videos, nothing. I’m sorry, I think we’ve been lied to too much to see Islam THE problem. We’ve been fed a bunch of lies and for many years I believed them. Did you ever see any video of the pentagon getting hit by a plane ? I haven’t. Islam is dangerous but they are ultimately small potatoes. They make convenient pasties though.
You know what we do have photographic evidence of, 5 Israelis cryptically holding a lighter to the twin towers the day before the 9-11 attacks from on top of a building in NJ. But the news will never report on that because they are owned. They are not independent sources. Essentially none of them are.
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I am not going to argue about 911. However, I have Christian friends in Europe who tell me about what is happening over there with Islam. I basically would need to call them liars, if I took your word for it.
Islam, per their prophet Muhammed and their God Allah, must f obey their commands in Koran to wage war against all infidels, either either we get converted or else killed off.
Weternized Muslims, moderates. do not see that as needing to be fulfilled, but the Islamic terrorists certainly still do, and they would be considered as the "pure" Muslims
If we destabilize Islamic countries to the point that the governments become more secular (and globally aligned), we will have to expect that the more militant and moderate sects will settle elsewhere globally. I reckon this will be accommodated to enable geopolitical restructuring to progress. The “left” enables and the “right” attacks - this is a vicious cycle that will continue perpetually. I don’t believe this is accidental but I agree it should not be accommodated unless we want to keep shaking the beehive. Some conservatives are fine with it. I am skeptical of news sources that fuel these narratives because these things typically don’t end well. I believe 9/11 and the fallout following the event is an example of the people not being well served but rather manipulated. But we can definitely call out and blame foolish immigration policies especially when citizens are not well represented but it’s also easy to get pretty cynical. What can we really do about it?
Also, Israel is well located militarily to advance globalism and one world governmental control. But every country needs to have globally aligned leadership. So we’re probably being sold out one way or another. They will play lip service to public opinion and do some “good” but long term, big picture, the trend is towards a loss of civil and personal/individual rights.
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Tom, you don’t think the government runs major surveillance on these Islamic cities? Unfortunately, they don’t really care about the locals who are affected - that’s not the master they serve.
I get reports from Reformed Christians in Europe. Who tell me how Islam is being allowed to take root in many European countries. They are the fastest growing religion in the world today and if the stats that I hear are correct. In about 30 years Islam will be the largest religion in the world. Also, Woke is affecting the population in other ways such as they have made people agree that the world is way over populated, so people are having less children. Yet, with Muslims, the exact opposite is occurring. They are having more children.
Understand here, God is sovereign in what ever occurs. Yet, it does not take a genuiis to see what this means. Woke ideology plays right into Islam’s hands. Africa is another area that is being overrun by Islamic militants.
Top that off and lately I have been trying to be more intentional about 1 Peter 3:15. I have been talking to an old work colleague and he brought up the subject of Islam. When I told him some of the things I know about Islam, while giving proof. His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal.
I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.
His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal...I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.
And why would you NOT believe that there is such a legal document in Canada? :scratch2: Anybody who knows about Canada and the lack of free speech and the stringent laws prohibiting "hate speech" would easily believe that Islamophobia is on the long list of "phobias" that if violated will probably result in one's prosecution. Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S.
Hungary is still free, and officially a "Christian nation." Probably more so than the US. But getting out of a falling country before it collapses into atheistic communism is good advice, Tom.
Just my opinion, but I think those who seek to prop up certain segments of the population to the detriment, in particular, a collapse, of a stable majority are primarily trying to sow division. So they can create order out of chaos. It’s a dangerous game for sure. Maybe Islam will take over nations but I think that’s the least of our concerns. Are there any example of European Christians being suppressed by Islam? even more than the woke contingencies? I still think paganism, which Islam may be a type of, is the largest opposition to Christianity, but everything that is for something else is ultimately against Christianity.
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I will never say never, to leaving Canada. However, at present if I did leave none of my family would go with me. They are not interested in looking into any of this.
I have been soundly rebuked a few times by close family members when I tried. They told me I better respect them and not saying anything else.
I’ll push back a little. There is a growing movement called the woke right that would probably seek a Muslim ban. Unfortunately, news is either far left or far right (so both sources are often peddling red meat). We have to try and detach our faith from such cultural issues and not allow that to be the lens to view all humanity. The woke right seeks to politicize Christianity as does the woke left. Our best way to associate with non-believers is to show how politics and ideologies can become other religions. We can’t positively engage with Muslims, Jews, or even Pagans, if we are dehumanizing them as beyond engagement and redemption. As individuals being made is God’s image is our common ground. True religion will never be mainstream. But we can expose civil right foundations as either grounded in God’s natural law and order or alternate religious foundations, as even lgbt, as various forms of ethnic superiority (supremacy - aka. eugenics), are grounded in anti-Christian “beliefs”.
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I’ve actually engaged with these hosts about how church and denominational abuses should not drive individuals to an even greater offense against God. ….. https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/.../episode-7-delaney-talks-about-255584645 We are being pulled in so many directions, often away from that One True Foundation. People who embrace new or apostate religions/sects need to be lured back to the true One.
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Anthony I had never heard the term “Right Woke”, before, until yesterday, now you are using it.
The context I heard it was on Rebel News where the host called both Tucker Carlson and Candace Owen “Right Woke”. They went onto say that they are shocked both both Candace and Tucker for their anti-Semitic attitude.
Apparently anybody on the right who does not believe that the Jews are a special people that we should be supporting as though they are beyond scrutiny, is bordering on anti-Semitism. I believe that the Old Covenant is fulfilled in Christ. All those in Christ are “Abraham’s seed according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) I have had pushback on my understanding of Galatians chapter 3 by Dispensationalist. Telling me my understanding of the passage is wrong. They tell me I am pushing “Replacement Theology”. Some go as far as to call what I believe is anti-Semitism.
I support Israel, in this particular situation because they are between a rock and a hard place. Hamas and other Islamic terrorists are trying to destroy them. Yet, that does not mean that I should blindly support Israel. Israel, is going in the direction of Woke itself. With the country made up of nearly 70% secular Jews, the major religious Jews are actually believe some blasphemous things about Jesus as told in the Talmud. The rest are made up of various other religious persuasion including Christianity.
There are no people who are beyond the reach of the Gospel and we should treat everybody as image bearers of God.
A good friend of mine and his Church does street evangelism. He was telling me that the majority of the people they talk to are not interested in talking. However, of those who are willing to talk are actually Muslims and a few of them actually have become Christians. Which comes at a big cost to them.
I do believe however, that the very ideology behind Islam flies in the face of the US Constitution. They are working towards Sharia Law, regardless of the methods they may use.
There is something here, that I think is important. Many Christians seem to think Politics and Christianity should be separate.
I am not in favour of flag waving and endorcing political parties or candidates in Church. Nevertheless our faith encompasses all of life, politics included.
I don’t follow these public, political figures much anymore. I’m speaking about Stephen Wolfe, former OPC pastor Michael Spangler, etc….
See the following:
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Dr. Brian Mattson outlines the manifest immaturity and neo-pagan children's crusade being served to and imbibed by today's young men - otherwise known as Bronze Age Masculinity. And, how these ploys are rooted in Romanticism leading to neo-fascist notions, contra to the fruit of the Spirit - a lust for Power.
“Many Christians seem to think Politics and Christianity should be separate.”
My pastor, Lane Tipton, makes a good point that the best common “grace” via “good” government can ultimately do is enable the gospel and the church to persevere via God’s providence. He doesn’t believe natural law in itself can enable even a neutral society (which most modern 2kingdom proponents seem to promote). Men are still depraved and can do only evil because their motives are only evil. So I’m for public engagement as far as you and I, and other sincere Christians are concerned, but I’m never surprised by the level of corruption and duplicity carried out by our public officials. We see how bad it can get throughout the world.
So, again, if our institutions uphold the place for the Gospel and the Church in society, that is its best purpose. We shouldn’t ultimately hope for much else that won’t be mired in corruption and self-serving special interest.
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On a side note, the hosts of that podcast I linked are Canadian (and promote gender fluidity especially among young women). I pushed back that fluid gender is being aggressively thrusted upon young females but for young men the fluidity is non-existent. Unfortunately, the Canadian spirit of the age is exposing areas of vulnerability and seducing these young ladies in believing they can be made whole in a same sex union of some sort. I tried to make the case that it’s a new religion that goes against Creation & Design but to no avail. They only see real and contrived toxic and repressive masculinity from society and even their own more traditional circles. Men outside and even inside many churches are failing - not that this excuses the promotion and embrace of queer ideology - it’s horrible and tragic how widespread and normalized this has become.
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His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal...I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.
And why would you NOT believe that there is such a legal document in Canada? :scratch2: Anybody who knows about Canada and the lack of free speech and the stringent laws prohibiting "hate speech" would easily believe that Islamophobia is on the long list of "phobias" that if violated will probably result in one's prosecution. Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S.
Yeah, this is tragic. The purposeful lack of nuance by public officials is appalling. Using “hate speech” as a cover for the promotion of strange (detrimental) beliefs or dismissal of legitimate civil concerns that laws are being usurped is highly problematic. This is why the lack of free press and fair reporting is so problematic. In our country, public outrage, (especially locally) even when gone unreported, still has a real positive impact on society. There is much sanity and freedom that remains in this country and lies in the hearts of the average citizen. Unfortunately, government and news consensus does not typically well represent us. Outliers and disqualifiers are used to make a silenced majority appear fringe. That’s why it’s imprortant to keep calling out the lies, and even partial truths and deflections/distractions. The people need to set the priorities.
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On a related note, interesting video and here’s my (respectfully stated) comment:
@anthonyj.castellitto 2 months ago I think some of the Covid compliance felt a little R2K. I would like an episode that evaluates the posture of the church if faced with such a scenario in the future. Will the Church honor the laws and priorities of men and where will the frustrated Christian citizen who is being forced to receive a vaccine, wear a mask and watch a sermon online go for comfort, support and most importantly spiritual nourishment. I don’t know if this has been worked out in preparation for the next “emergency.” Which kingdom will reign supreme? Will we be shamed into bowing before the civil authorities in matters that directly threaten our spiritual health? That’s the conversation that we need to obsess over, not the Christian Nationalists. Save that for twitter, I guess.
Over the last 4 or 5 years I have actually listened to some good sermons on Romans chapter 13. One of them was from Edmonton pastor James Coates who spent about 22 days in jail for not closing his Church. By the way, when his court case happened, he and the Church was found “not guilty.”
However, one series I really enjoyed on Romans 13, was by Samuel Waldron.
Sorry for chiming in this late. However, I am starting to hear the term “Woke Right” more often. The problem, “Woke” has an element of CRT in it. While “Right” or even far right such as Nick Fuentes doesn’t. In other words, the term seems like an oxymoron.
By the way, when we understand Islam and their beliefs such as “Sharia Law”. Unless I am misunderstanding something is not compatible with the US Constitution.
If memory serves me correctly, Pilgrim has actually said Islam and the American Constitution don’t mix.
Sorry for chiming in this late. However, I am starting to hear the term “Woke Right” more often. The problem, “Woke” has an element of CRT in it. While “Right” or even far right such as Nick Fuentes doesn’t.
By the way, when we understand Islam and their beliefs such as “Sharia Law”. Unless, I am missing something. The US Constitution and Islam, are not compatible.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe Pilgrim said that a while back.
Personally, I think a term like woke right and Christian nationalism (which in their most insidious strains would invoke a form of white supremacy that owes more to social Darwinism than classic liberalism) will get all the press in response to something like an Islamic take over of an American territory because that’s easier to dismiss and ridicule than true pro-democracy arguments. It’s why I don’t see the legacy news as authoritative, because it’s either defensive like Fox News or selectively offensive like most of the mainstream media. None of it is helpful, it’s just shaping a narrative.
Check out my posts on Machen and even Bryan (who was more a big gov Arminian but fought some good fights considering he was fully sincere). If big money can fund their defeats on/in religious and theological grounds/realms, imagine what it can do in the world of mainstream politics where most of that big money hates Jesus Christ and essentially the common man. It’s why both classical liberal and theonomous / theocratic (or any Christian-based) political theories are vigorously attacked by mainstream society. The ones who profit and control the most want no part of a truly moral, transparent, self-governing system - what good is all their money and power if they can’t exploit the masses? What better way to exploit (and control) than keep people immoral and ungodly?
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Coincidentally, like Trump, William Jennings Bryan, who ran for president, was a populist. Bryan definitely snuffed out the concerns of the common man toward elite scientism and religious freedom/thought/expression - most prominently the Christian majority of his day. These concerns still exist today.
Concerning the term “Christian Nationalism.” When it is used, I always suspect something sinister. Therefore, I like how the late Voddie Baucham, used to answer the question: “Voddie, are you a Christian Nationalist?”
He would ask them to define the term “Christian Nationalist” first, before he responded. He added, that almost always after the definition was given, he would answer “no” to the question.
The term Christian automatically should make us think of a follower of Christ as directed by Scripture. Add Nationalist to that, and to me it says a follower of Christ, who would love for their nation to be Christian, as long as it stays within the bounds of Scripture.
One thing Voddie took a lot of flack from Reformed Christians for is a very simple question he asked.
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Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S. 
