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Tom #59514 Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:51 PM
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I’m sorry Tom, I keep going back to 9-11. Do you know there are no video or pictures of the “terrorists” in THE airports or boarding THE planes prior to the attack. There are a few pictures of 1 or 2 alleged terrorists in A random airport (but not the airports the planes supposedly departed from or on that date), no direct links. The evidence should be overwhelming - no date/time stamped videos, nothing. I’m sorry, I think we’ve been lied to too much to see Islam THE problem. We’ve been fed a bunch of lies and for many years I believed them. Did you ever see any video of the pentagon getting hit by a plane ? I haven’t. Islam is dangerous but they are ultimately small potatoes. They make convenient pasties though.

You know what we do have photographic evidence of, 5 Israelis cryptically holding a lighter to the twin towers the day before the 9-11 attacks from on top of a building in NJ. But the news will never report on that because they are owned. They are not independent sources. Essentially none of them are.

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I am not going to argue about 911.
However, I have Christian friends in Europe who tell me about what is happening over there with Islam.
I basically would need to call them liars, if I took your word for it.

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Islam, per their prophet Muhammed and their God Allah, must f obey their commands in Koran to wage war against all infidels, either either we get converted or else killed off.

Weternized Muslims, moderates. do not see that as needing to be fulfilled, but the Islamic terrorists certainly still do, and they would be considered as the "pure" Muslims

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You are correct. However, there are a few things about moderate Muslims that should be known.

All Muslims want Sharia Law, which even moderates understanding of this. Is against the American Constitution.

Also, I forget the name Muslims use for this. However, basically they are allowed to lie to infedals if it is for the cause of Allah.

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If we destabilize Islamic countries to the point that the governments become more secular (and globally aligned), we will have to expect that the more militant and moderate sects will settle elsewhere globally. I reckon this will be accommodated to enable geopolitical restructuring to progress. The “left” enables and the “right” attacks - this is a vicious cycle that will continue perpetually. I don’t believe this is accidental but I agree it should not be accommodated unless we want to keep shaking the beehive. Some conservatives are fine with it. I am skeptical of news sources that fuel these narratives because these things typically don’t end well. I believe 9/11 and the fallout following the event is an example of the people not being well served but rather manipulated. But we can definitely call out and blame foolish immigration policies especially when citizens are not well represented but it’s also easy to get pretty cynical. What can we really do about it?

Also, Israel is well located militarily to advance globalism and one world governmental control. But every country needs to have globally aligned leadership. So we’re probably being sold out one way or another. They will play lip service to public opinion and do some “good” but long term, big picture, the trend is towards a loss of civil and personal/individual rights.

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Tom, you don’t think the government runs major surveillance on these Islamic cities? Unfortunately, they don’t really care about the locals who are affected - that’s not the master they serve.

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I get reports from Reformed Christians in Europe. Who tell me how Islam is being allowed to take root in many European countries. They are the fastest growing religion in the world today and if the stats that I hear are correct. In about 30 years Islam will be the largest religion in the world.
Also, Woke is affecting the population in other ways such as they have made people agree that the world is way over populated, so people are having less children.
Yet, with Muslims, the exact opposite is occurring. They are having more children.

Understand here, God is sovereign in what ever occurs. Yet, it does not take a genuiis to see what this means.
Woke ideology plays right into Islam’s hands. Africa is another area that is being overrun by Islamic militants.

Top that off and lately I have been trying to be more intentional about 1 Peter 3:15.
I have been talking to an old work colleague and he brought up the subject of Islam.
When I told him some of the things I know about Islam, while giving proof.
His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal.

I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.

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I am in no way, saying what we should be doing in these cases.
I am however, pointing out the truth about what is happening.

Also, today I started another thread on this topic.

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His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal...I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.
And why would you NOT believe that there is such a legal document in Canada? :scratch2: Anybody who knows about Canada and the lack of free speech and the stringent laws prohibiting "hate speech" would easily believe that Islamophobia is on the long list of "phobias" that if violated will probably result in one's prosecution. igiveup Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S. joy bravo thewave


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Hungary is still free, and officially a "Christian nation." Probably more so than the US. But getting out of a falling country before it collapses into atheistic communism is good advice, Tom.

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Just my opinion, but I think those who seek to prop up certain segments of the population to the detriment, in particular, a collapse, of a stable majority are primarily trying to sow division. So they can create order out of chaos. It’s a dangerous game for sure. Maybe Islam will take over nations but I think that’s the least of our concerns. Are there any example of European Christians being suppressed by Islam? even more than the woke contingencies? I still think paganism, which Islam may be a type of, is the largest opposition to Christianity, but everything that is for something else is ultimately against Christianity.

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Anthony, what I believe is Woke falls right into the hands of Islam.
Not taking an opinion on which is worse.

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I will never say never, to leaving Canada. However, at present if I did leave none of my family would go with me.
They are not interested in looking into any of this.

I have been soundly rebuked a few times by close family members when I tried. They told me I better respect them and not saying anything else.

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I’ll push back a little. There is a growing movement called the woke right that would probably seek a Muslim ban.
Unfortunately, news is either far left or far right (so both sources are often peddling red meat). We have to try and detach our faith from such cultural issues and not allow that to be the lens to view all humanity. The woke right seeks to politicize Christianity as does the woke left. Our best way to associate with non-believers is to show how politics and ideologies can become other religions. We can’t positively engage with Muslims, Jews, or even Pagans, if we are dehumanizing them as beyond engagement and redemption. As individuals being made is God’s image is our common ground. True religion will never be mainstream. But we can expose civil right foundations as either grounded in God’s natural law and order or alternate religious foundations, as even lgbt, as various forms of ethnic superiority (supremacy - aka. eugenics), are grounded in anti-Christian “beliefs”.

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I’ve actually engaged with these hosts about how church and denominational abuses should not drive individuals to an even greater offense against God. ….. https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/.../episode-7-delaney-talks-about-255584645 We are being pulled in so many directions, often away from that One True Foundation. People who embrace new or apostate religions/sects need to be lured back to the true One.

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