Anthony I had never heard the term “Right Woke”, before, until yesterday, now you are using it.
The context I heard it was on Rebel News where the host called both Tucker Carlson and Candace Owen “Right Woke”. They went onto say that they are shocked both both Candace and Tucker for their anti-Semitic attitude.
Apparently anybody on the right who does not believe that the Jews are a special people that we should be supporting as though they are beyond scrutiny, is bordering on anti-Semitism. I believe that the Old Covenant is fulfilled in Christ. All those in Christ are “Abraham’s seed according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) I have had pushback on my understanding of Galatians chapter 3 by Dispensationalist. Telling me my understanding of the passage is wrong. They tell me I am pushing “Replacement Theology”. Some go as far as to call what I believe is anti-Semitism.
I support Israel, in this particular situation because they are between a rock and a hard place. Hamas and other Islamic terrorists are trying to destroy them. Yet, that does not mean that I should blindly support Israel. Israel, is going in the direction of Woke itself. With the country made up of nearly 70% secular Jews, the major religious Jews are actually believe some blasphemous things about Jesus as told in the Talmud. The rest are made up of various other religious persuasion including Christianity.
There are no people who are beyond the reach of the Gospel and we should treat everybody as image bearers of God.
A good friend of mine and his Church does street evangelism. He was telling me that the majority of the people they talk to are not interested in talking. However, of those who are willing to talk are actually Muslims and a few of them actually have become Christians. Which comes at a big cost to them.
I do believe however, that the very ideology behind Islam flies in the face of the US Constitution. They are working towards Sharia Law, regardless of the methods they may use.
There is something here, that I think is important. Many Christians seem to think Politics and Christianity should be separate.
I am not in favour of flag waving and endorcing political parties or candidates in Church. Nevertheless our faith encompasses all of life, politics included.
I don’t follow these public, political figures much anymore. I’m speaking about Stephen Wolfe, former OPC pastor Michael Spangler, etc….
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Dr. Brian Mattson outlines the manifest immaturity and neo-pagan children's crusade being served to and imbibed by today's young men - otherwise known as Bronze Age Masculinity. And, how these ploys are rooted in Romanticism leading to neo-fascist notions, contra to the fruit of the Spirit - a lust for Power.
“Many Christians seem to think Politics and Christianity should be separate.”
My pastor, Lane Tipton, makes a good point that the best common “grace” via “good” government can ultimately do is enable the gospel and the church to persevere via God’s providence. He doesn’t believe natural law in itself can enable even a neutral society (which most modern 2kingdom proponents seem to promote). Men are still depraved and can do only evil because their motives are only evil. So I’m for public engagement as far as you and I, and other sincere Christians are concerned, but I’m never surprised by the level of corruption and duplicity carried out by our public officials. We see how bad it can get throughout the world.
So, again, if our institutions uphold the place for the Gospel and the Church in society, that is its best purpose. We shouldn’t ultimately hope for much else that won’t be mired in corruption and self-serving special interest.
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On a side note, the hosts of that podcast I linked are Canadian (and promote gender fluidity especially among young women). I pushed back that fluid gender is being aggressively thrusted upon young females but for young men the fluidity is non-existent. Unfortunately, the Canadian spirit of the age is exposing areas of vulnerability and seducing these young ladies in believing they can be made whole in a same sex union of some sort. I tried to make the case that it’s a new religion that goes against Creation & Design but to no avail. They only see real and contrived toxic and repressive masculinity from society and even their own more traditional circles. Men outside and even inside many churches are failing - not that this excuses the promotion and embrace of queer ideology - it’s horrible and tragic how widespread and normalized this has become.
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His response was I was bordering on Islamophobia. He did not believe one word about what I said. Then he send me one page of a supposed Canadian law document. That literally said any Islamophobia is illegal...I am not sure if that document was real, but if it is. It explains why Pro-Hamas protestors are allowed to do what they are doing. Yet if anyone dares counter protests, they may be arrested.
And why would you NOT believe that there is such a legal document in Canada? :scratch2: Anybody who knows about Canada and the lack of free speech and the stringent laws prohibiting "hate speech" would easily believe that Islamophobia is on the long list of "phobias" that if violated will probably result in one's prosecution. Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S.
Yeah, this is tragic. The purposeful lack of nuance by public officials is appalling. Using “hate speech” as a cover for the promotion of strange (detrimental) beliefs or dismissal of legitimate civil concerns that laws are being usurped is highly problematic. This is why the lack of free press and fair reporting is so problematic. In our country, public outrage, (especially locally) even when gone unreported, still has a real positive impact on society. There is much sanity and freedom that remains in this country and lies in the hearts of the average citizen. Unfortunately, government and news consensus does not typically well represent us. Outliers and disqualifiers are used to make a silenced majority appear fringe. That’s why it’s imprortant to keep calling out the lies, and even partial truths and deflections/distractions. The people need to set the priorities.
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On a related note, interesting video and here’s my (respectfully stated) comment:
@anthonyj.castellitto 2 months ago I think some of the Covid compliance felt a little R2K. I would like an episode that evaluates the posture of the church if faced with such a scenario in the future. Will the Church honor the laws and priorities of men and where will the frustrated Christian citizen who is being forced to receive a vaccine, wear a mask and watch a sermon online go for comfort, support and most importantly spiritual nourishment. I don’t know if this has been worked out in preparation for the next “emergency.” Which kingdom will reign supreme? Will we be shamed into bowing before the civil authorities in matters that directly threaten our spiritual health? That’s the conversation that we need to obsess over, not the Christian Nationalists. Save that for twitter, I guess.
Over the last 4 or 5 years I have actually listened to some good sermons on Romans chapter 13. One of them was from Edmonton pastor James Coates who spent about 22 days in jail for not closing his Church. By the way, when his court case happened, he and the Church was found “not guilty.”
However, one series I really enjoyed on Romans 13, was by Samuel Waldron.
Sorry for chiming in this late. However, I am starting to hear the term “Woke Right” more often. The problem, “Woke” has an element of CRT in it. While “Right” or even far right such as Nick Fuentes doesn’t. In other words, the term seems like an oxymoron.
By the way, when we understand Islam and their beliefs such as “Sharia Law”. Unless I am misunderstanding something is not compatible with the US Constitution.
If memory serves me correctly, Pilgrim has actually said Islam and the American Constitution don’t mix.
Sorry for chiming in this late. However, I am starting to hear the term “Woke Right” more often. The problem, “Woke” has an element of CRT in it. While “Right” or even far right such as Nick Fuentes doesn’t.
By the way, when we understand Islam and their beliefs such as “Sharia Law”. Unless, I am missing something. The US Constitution and Islam, are not compatible.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe Pilgrim said that a while back.
Personally, I think a term like woke right and Christian nationalism (which in their most insidious strains would invoke a form of white supremacy that owes more to social Darwinism than classic liberalism) will get all the press in response to something like an Islamic take over of an American territory because that’s easier to dismiss and ridicule than true pro-democracy arguments. It’s why I don’t see the legacy news as authoritative, because it’s either defensive like Fox News or selectively offensive like most of the mainstream media. None of it is helpful, it’s just shaping a narrative.
Check out my posts on Machen and even Bryan (who was more a big gov Arminian but fought some good fights considering he was fully sincere). If big money can fund their defeats on/in religious and theological grounds/realms, imagine what it can do in the world of mainstream politics where most of that big money hates Jesus Christ and essentially the common man. It’s why both classical liberal and theonomous / theocratic (or any Christian-based) political theories are vigorously attacked by mainstream society. The ones who profit and control the most want no part of a truly moral, transparent, self-governing system - what good is all their money and power if they can’t exploit the masses? What better way to exploit (and control) than keep people immoral and ungodly?
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Coincidentally, like Trump, William Jennings Bryan, who ran for president, was a populist. Bryan definitely snuffed out the concerns of the common man toward elite scientism and religious freedom/thought/expression - most prominently the Christian majority of his day. These concerns still exist today.
Concerning the term “Christian Nationalism.” When it is used, I always suspect something sinister. Therefore, I like how the late Voddie Baucham, used to answer the question: “Voddie, are you a Christian Nationalist?”
He would ask them to define the term “Christian Nationalist” first, before he responded. He added, that almost always after the definition was given, he would answer “no” to the question.
The term Christian automatically should make us think of a follower of Christ as directed by Scripture. Add Nationalist to that, and to me it says a follower of Christ, who would love for their nation to be Christian, as long as it stays within the bounds of Scripture.
One thing Voddie took a lot of flack from Reformed Christians for is a very simple question he asked.
Tom, you are living in a Socialist country. Don't you think it's about time you accepted that sad reality? It is a godless country and unless God wills, it will continue in its ways and perhaps even morph into a neo-Communist country. If I hadn't left there when I did, doubtless the authorities would have arrested me like so many others and thrown me in jail for speaking the truth about what I saw and heard what was taught in schools and what they allow to happen to children. But I chose to live free and thus I live in the "Live Free or Die" state in the U.S. 
