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#7985 - Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:47 AM A Legitimate Ministry?  
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I was told of a group of Christians that just happened to like baseball. They decided that they would join the city league for the sole purpose of evangelism.<br>What they found was that although they found it was very effective means of evangelism, they had a real problem with other Christians that spread untrue rumors about them, mostly in the direction of the leader of the group who was a pastor.<br><br>Do you believe that this is a legitimate mean of evangelism?<br><br>Tom<br>

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#7986 - Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:01 PM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Tom]  
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Tom,<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I was told of a group of Christians that just happened to like baseball. They decided that they would join the city league for the sole purpose of evangelism. What they found was it was very effective means of evangelism..... <br><br>Do you believe that this is a legitimate mean of evangelism?</font><hr></blockquote><p>If you remove the negative remarks about the pastor (as I've done by editing your comments) I think you've answered your own question.<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]What they found was that they had a real problem with other Christians that spread untrue rumors about them, mostly in the direction of the leader of the group who was a pastor.</font><hr></blockquote><p>Well that's a problem which needs confrontation if in fact the "other" Christians are indeed true believers. When Christians are undercutting other Christians it can render any ministry efforts fruitless. So the truth needs to be brought out and this problem needs to be resolved between the Christian groups.<br><br>As to your question about a legitimate ministry through baseball, why not? <br><br><br>Wes


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#7987 - Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:55 PM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Wes]  
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Wes<br><br>That is the way I was leaning also, but I am afraid that among many conservative Christians today believe that this shouldn't be done by Christians. In fact, this particular pastor ended up having to leave his Church because of his views.<br>To me what is proclaimed when we evangelize is more important than the tool (i.e. baseball) we may choose to use in order to proclaim it.<br>Of course we are to stay within God's moral code while doing so.<br><br>Tom

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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]That is the way I was leaning also, but I am afraid that among many conservative Christians today believe that this shouldn't be done by Christians.</font><hr></blockquote><p>Many conservative Christians today also believe that it is wrong for a Christian to walk into a bar to share Jesus with people. Anymore, I think that the modern church is a lot like the pharisees in Jesus' day. He went in and ate dinner with the pagan people. If we went by the modern mentality of doing this or that kills your witness, than we'd have to say that Jesus' witness was totally shot. I say praise God for people willing to go where the sinner is to share Christ with him in hopes that God may do a work!

#7989 - Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:40 AM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Tom]  
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Seems to me that sharing the Gospel 'as we go' anywhere is a good way to share the Gospel. Jesus ate with sinners. Someone has to go get these people, after all.<br><br>Recently, I've been hanging around WebMD.com, their "Ask the Experts" boards, especially the pre-teen and teenage board. It's pretty hairy. Yet, even though other "Christians" are espousing decidedly non-Christian notions and even though I am being attacked, I hope that just by looking in every so often will enable me to encourage someone who wants it. And there have been times when I have done that. But it is a risk, as I have been explicitly told that "forcing religion" on others is not allowed. As though others were not doing the same thing by "forcing" a godless view on others!<br><br>If anyone cares to check it out; http://boards.webmd.com/topic.asp?topic_id=1119


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Dear Eleanor,<br>That was a great answer you gave that boy. I hope many others will see it as well and that they will listen. <br>Beautifully done. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/cheers.gif" alt="cheers" title="cheers[/img] [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/clapping.gif" alt="clapping" title="clapping[/img]<br>Susan

#7991 - Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:51 AM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Tom]  
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I have a couple of questions that would help me see the situation more clearly. <br><br>Did the ministry bear fruit, or more clearly, by this ministry did the Church receive any new visitors or new members?<br><br>And if so, did the Church not want them? <br><br>Just curiious--

#7992 - Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:23 PM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: rcwilly2002]  
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Sorry, I don't know the answers to those questions, I gave all the information I know.<br><br>Tom

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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]But it is a risk, as I have been explicitly told that "forcing religion" on others is not allowed. As though others were not doing the same thing by "forcing" a godless view on others!</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>No kidding.


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#7994 - Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:20 AM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Tom]  
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How many games did they win?


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#7995 - Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:11 PM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: J_Edwards]  
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They came in 2nd place in the league.

#7996 - Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:00 PM Re: A Legitimate Ministry? [Re: Tom]  
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Great!! It is good to know that they did not develop a league of "losers" just to evangelize. Sometimes this is a person's mindset and it ends up being a poor witness for they cannot even play sports, et. al. The Bible reveals several types of evangelistic methods. Here are a few:<br><br>Preaching Evangelism: Acts 17:17, basically in Church<br>Contact Evangelism: Acts 17:17, in the Marketplace as they came upon people<br>Friendship Evangelism: Acts 18:7, 20:20-21, family and friends<br>Public Forum Evangelism: Acts 17:19, 19:9, Mars Hill, lecture hall of Tyrannus


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