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#9801 - Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:54 AM Naked Breakfast  

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From the London Times today.

" An American entrepreneur is to open what may be the worlds first Christian nudist colony. Bill Martin, a Quaker,has paid $1.6 million for a site in Pasco County Florida, which he hopes to transform into a modern-day Garden of Eden. The colony, called Natura, will offer visitors worship, nude marriage retreats and communal baptism ceremonies. "The Bible very clearly states that when Adam and Eve were right with God they were naked",said David Blood, the projects executive director."When people are right with God, they do not have to fear nudity" "

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Sounds like he's asking for a LOT of trouble! Does he not realize that was BEFORE the Fall?


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<font face="Arial Black"><font size="7"><span style="background-color:#FFFF00"><table style="filter:glow (color=#FF0000 strength=2)">Blasphemy</table></span></font></font>


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I hope I havn't offended you Joe

Shall I delete the post ?

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Mark,

Joe was responding, I assume, to Blood's comments and actions. I personally see no reason why you have to delete this post.

I suppose Blood believes he can look at porn...

He would do well to read this explanation by A. W. Pink:

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The salient elements which comprise the nature of regeneration may, perhaps, be summed up in these three words: impartation, renovation, and subjugation. God communicates something to the one who is born again, namely, a principle of faith and obedience, a holy nature, eternal life. This, though real, palpable, and potent, is nothing material or tangible, nothing added to our essence, substance, or person. Again, God renews every faculty of the soul and spirit of the one born again, not perfectly and finally, for we are “renewed day by day” (II Cor. 4: 16), but so as to enable those faculties to be exercised upon spiritual objects. Again, God subdues the power of the sin indwelling the one born again. He does not eradicate it, but He dethrones it, so that it no longer has dominion over the heart. Instead of sin ruling the Christian, and that by his own willing subjection, it is resisted and hated.

Regeneration is not the improvement or purification of the “flesh,” which is that principle of evil still with the believer. The appetites and tendencies of the “flesh” are precisely the same after the new birth as they were before; only they no longer reign over him. For a time it may seem that the “flesh” is dead, yet in reality it is not so. Often its very stillness (as an army, in ambush) is only awaiting its opportunity or a gathering up of its strength for a further attack. It is not long ere the renewed soul discovers that the “flesh” is yet very much alive, desiring to have its way. But grace will not suffer it to have its sway. On the one hand the Christian has to say, “For to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not” (Rom. 7:18). On the other hand, he is able to declare, “Christ liveth in me, and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me” (Gal. 2:20).


http://www.the-highway.com/reg4_Pink.html


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Lets try and find his e-mail address and preach the gospel to him <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I was just thinking about that! Sounds great <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/ClapHands.gif" alt="" />


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Not to mention that clothes themselves are but poor symbols of what God himself gave us.

Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. (Genesis 3:21)

Clothes were/are a type of the true covering for sin that God would give us that is Jesus' blood. So if the Quaker nudist did understand the Word of God he would then know that to even think about creating such a thing as a "Christian" nudist colony is wrong.









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#9809 - Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:40 AM Email [Re: MarieP]  
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Here is David Blood's email:

davidblood@comcast.net


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No, the idea of an allegedly Christian nudist colony is offensive.....not you posting some facts about it.... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />


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24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.


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You know, I bet the original Quakers would be quite horrified at this blatant immodesty.


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If anyone does contact them, please keep us informed.

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You know, I bet the original Quakers would be quite horrified at this blatant immodesty.


Perhaps Kyle, however if you research this group you can see that they were not what I would call a Christian denomination in fact much of what they believe is cultic.

See these pages:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/quaker.htm
http://www.quaker.org/fwcc/EMES/booklet.html

Although there is a branch of Quakerism that is considered Evangelical here is their beliefs:
http://www.evangelical-friends.org/about/beliefs.html



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#9815 - Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:00 PM Re: Naked Breakfast  
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Hey,

I just thought I'd throw out two or three thoughts here,

Romans 13:14 "But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
(KJV)" How can it be nudist and Christian? Christians are permanently clothed in Christ!

but also, I was thinking Paul said that all things were permissible but not all things are beneficial but I can't find the verse I thought said that.

and then finally, I just loved the point made by Sanctus, that's right on.

well, thats all I got,

-Brother Luke

P.S. I really liked how Joe said "Blasphemy" that was cool. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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P.S.S. (and maybe this is for another thread) but what's up with people trying to make "Christian" alternatives to worldly things, is the church reduced to following the worlds example? And here I thought we were supposed to set the example and be different and creative and stuff. I say fie to these people who're using the word Christian to add to their wallet, and fie on the poeple who don't have the stones to oppose such greed.

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