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1saved said: Thank you brother, Kyle. This website has a very long dissertation on the events surrounding both Calvin and Servetus. I stopped before reading a third of the material.
Too much conviction for you George? Perhaps you weren't finding what you wanted ie: the condemnation of John Calvin?
The way from Vienne or Toulouse, where he may have gone first, leads through Grenoble, Modane, and Turin. Why then such a wearisome detour? Moreover he had every reason to avoid Geneva because Calvin had warned him for many years. As early as 1546, he wrote to Farel that should Servetus come to Geneva he would not leave alive, provided his authority was still respected. From the connection of the letter, I conclude he must have written to Servetus in like manner. According to the documents of the trial, Servetus. seemed to be of the opinion that Calvin himself served notice on him in Vienne. The testimony above says the official documents of the trial of Servetus may imply something different than what Dr. Horton wrote, i.e. there is no official trial record of malice toward Servetus by Calvin. I'm hoping Dr. Horton or a representative of his will clarify this apparent conflicting testimony between Hunt and Dr. Horton.
I am not a representative of Dr Michael Horton but I think I can clear this up easily let me quote from James White:
Further, Dave [Hunt] is not a scholar. In fact, he is proud of his lack of training in biblical languages, historical backgrounds, etc., (and the requisite training in the use of source materials in a proper and fair way that goes along with those studies). His tradition eschews that kind of study as being “elitist,” and surely that attitude resonates with many in evangelicalism today where, due to post-modern influences, everyone’s opinion is considered equal to everyone else’s. (here is the entire quote:
http://aomin.org/CalvCon.html )
Dave hunt isn't a scholar, any works he submits must then be held to strict scrutiny because his lack of scholarship errors are likely to occur. Something that was pointed out frequently in Dave Hunt's book on Calvinism. Dave Hunt got it all wrong George, completely. Numerous times it was pointed out to him by Calvinists and Non-calvinists alike that he was wrong in his assertions. If you had read more than a third (or less) of the dissertations there this would have been obvious to you.
Okay George issue solved lets move on.
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