Please don't let YOUR need to defend YOUR doctrine cause you to mischaracterize either the nature of this discussion or, especially, Pilgrim's integrity. It is very unbecoming.

And what is MY DOCTRINE? The belief, which you people just cannot seem to grasp, that we have life through believing in the Lord, as the scripture says? You people can't even understand a simple verse and you puff yourselves up as though you were great theologians. What a joke you all are. You call Pilgrim's utter misrepresentation of the Greek and of the text "careful." oh how very funny. I suppose you believe in two new births also, if it gets your theology out of a jam. I don't suppose you found Pilgrim's slur about only having taken one semester "unbecoming"? I suppose behaviour is only unbecoming if it comes from a non calvinist.