Sorry, but all that quote by Veith accomplished was to affirm pragmatism, if anything. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" /> Let's also not forget that Huldrych Zwingli was the man who reduced the sacraments of the Lord's Supper and Baptism to ordinances and simple memorials and who neither Calvin, Luther, or Bullinger was overly pleased for doing so.

And, at the risk of being accused of rank redundancy, as I wrote also to Fred and others many times already, there are far too many things of fundamental importance, e.g., the deity and dual nature of Christ, et al, which this movie denies. It is hardly a valid comparison to put the "Luther" movie along side of "The Passion of Christ". Martin Luther was not the incarnate Son of God before Whom we are to bow. Could it be that those who are so passionate about "The Passion" have a too low view of Christ that they would applaud having Him portrayed in such a profane manner on a movie screen? How can anyone make such mockery of the exalted Christ of God? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/hairout.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,

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