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Golly gee..... haven't you read any of the other replies in this thread? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> Nearly everything you posited to defend this erroneous view, has been dealt with quite thoroughly already. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Another applicable passage is Romans 5:12-13:
“Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned – for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed where there is no law.” (NASV)
A.T. Robertson, Southern Baptists’ foremost Greek authority, commented on Romans 5:13: Again, the very fact that death exists, of which some unborn infants also experience, goes to prove that they too are sinners by nature, and thus liable to judgment. Only sinners experience death, according to the Scriptures. In fact, it is because they are sinners do humans die. If they had no sin, then they would have no need of Christ's atonement applied to them. In fact, I had hinted at this already too, here: One of my replies below. Robertson's comments on verse 13 are irrelevant to the issue of unborn infants dying in infancy. Secondly, Erickson surely contradicts himself right out of the gate. For he first acknowledges the truth that ALL are partakers of Adam's "guilt" and "corruption of nature" but then goes on to contradict that affirmation when he writes: <blockquote> With this matter of guilt, however, just as with the imputation of Christ’s righteousness, there must be some conscious and voluntary decision on our part. Until this is the case, there is only a conditional imputation of guilt. Thus, there is no condemnation until one reaches the age of responsibility.<br> </blockquote> Now, pray tell, where did he get THAT bit of information from; the "Devised Standard Version" of the Bible, perhaps? ![[Linked Image]](http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/Dunno.gif) I see lots of imaginative thinking, but nothing that resembles biblical teaching. The same goes for this novel idea of the "age of responsibility". Sounds more like the teaching of John Locke and his "Tabula Rasa" than the apostle Paul. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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