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If some of them go to hell, then why not all of them? What makes the difference between one dying infant and another? Baptizing the infant? Being a son or daughter of an elect person? I believe it is called GRACE. Sola Gratia is the sole means and the foundation of salvation according to the biblical record; God's revelation to man. ALL are born "children of wrath". (Eph 2:3) ALL are at enmity with God and are thus by nature enemies of God. (Rom 5:10) ALL are under condemnation by virtue of the fact that we ALL are made after the likeness of our father Adam. (Rom 5:16; Gen 5:3) The conclusion is incontrovertible despite your denial of it, that guilt and corruption of nature are the result of God's punishment and curse upon the human race and which ultimately results in eternal damnation UNLESS God's sovereign free grace is applied. ALL, without exception are in need of: Redemption, an acceptable Sacrifice, Propitiation and Reconciliation. Without the atonement of Christ applied, NO man will escape the judgment which by nature rests upon him. There is NONE righteous, no NOT ONE. (Rom 3:10) There is nothing about an unborn infant which would lend itself to God more than any other human being so that God would be inclined to save it from hell. I hold tenaciously to UNconditional Election. Romans 9:8-13 (ASV) "That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed. For this is a word of promise, According to this season will I come, and Sarah shall have a son. And not only so; but Rebecca also having conceived by one, [even] by our father Isaac-- for [the children] being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Even as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."
As to Boettner's diatribe in support of your view, what more can I say that he is in error and likewise has not one shred of biblical evidence to offer in his behalf. Speculative sentimentalism may surely sway the masses, but the propositional truths of Holy Writ are the foundation of all that we are to believe. The majority of mankind cringes at the thought that God would only love some and hate others. Most find the truth that Christ died for only a remnant of the human race and not all most odious. Should it be surprising that the majority of people would find that unborn babies will be cast into the Lake of Fire most objectionable? John 6:65-68 (ASV) "And he said, For this cause have I said unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it be given unto him of the Father. Upon this many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Jesus said therefore unto the twelve, Would ye also go away? Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life."
In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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