Joe - Nowhere did I say that CCC was totally reformed and so that is not something I will defend. The only blanket statements like that, made by anyone were made by Semper regarding CCC materials (and, in effect, CCC in general).

Your point that there are many good folks in CCC that work to improve it and enact reformed change I think supports my point of view quite well. If this were an organization that truly deserved being dismissed as Semper did, why would any bother stay. It was he that basically declared it a worthless organization with his cursory and, I think, mean-spirited dismissal. Seems that maybe there is a bit more there than he is willing to give credit for.