To get back to the main point I was trying to make. I found your outright dismissal of an organization that has brought the truth of the Gospel to so many tens of thousands, simply based on whether they are in absolute strict adherence with reformed theology both shortsighted and legalistic. I hope others extend me more grace in light of my shortcomings than you do of CCC's. Now, do not take this as an endorsement of the end justifying the means. I don't believe that. But I do know that an organization that attracts so many believers who hold to the principals you espouse, shouldn't be dismissed out-of-hand as you do.