KoreaHog......I am going to explain, for the last time, that your illustration means nothing. It does not prove a state of equipoise. You have not shown, not one time, that man chooses contrary to his nature. Please stop putting forth this position, as it is heretical.

It might be more edifying, however, for us to discuss Scripture passages rather than making charges of heresy.

Yes, a new passage, because the 1Kings one doesn't uphold your position.

God bless,