Averagefellar, you said, "This thread doesn't have much longer unless you produce something of weight."

Why have you changed your mind? Earlier you said, "This will be easier if we discuss one scripture at a time." I have only discussed one passage so far. Well, it's bedtime in South Korea. You can think about it and let me know what you want to do. If you don't want to discuss the other verses, then maybe someone else will. If not, that's okay. I'll check the thread tomorrow morning.