ok, clearer, but still a little confused. instead of seeing dimly, he sees clearly, as clearly as he is known, right? but known by who? what is being used for the comparison? who has known him? God? nobody can see as clearly as God, correct?

thanks.

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so he'll know fully, just like he's been known fully. is that using God's knowledge of him for the comparison or... ?
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Last edited by reformed yevot; Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:08 PM.
Romans 8:29 (in Arminian): For whom He foreknew, He also [foreknew] to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.