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That your use of slightly was pretty far off. The mormons are a bit further than slightly and your grouping them together with anything orthodox shows the extent you are willing to go to distort.

You are begging the question of whether tampering with the relationship the Son has with the Father is heretical or within the bounds of orthodoxy. If MacArthur’s former belief was heretical, then it may be grouped with all other heresies. Was I expected to rate heresies by degree?

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You need to stop making my words mean things I simply do not state. This is a form of dishonesty and I do not appreciate it.

I did nothing of the sort. Your statement was cryptic, so I asked you to explain your vaguer remark. I, also, said “who knows what you mean”, but “if I had to guess…”

“Are you so often cryptic in order to avoid interaction with your beliefs? Please string some premises together and conclude something based upon those premises. If I had to guess what this vague remarks means, I'd conclude that you think that Mormons are way off, so they're heretics; whereas one may deny the eternal sonship of Christ and remain within the bounds of orthodoxy. But who knows what you mean.”

Tell me William, can one deny the eternal relationship between the Son and the Father and be orthodox in his trinitarian theology? If not, then MacArthur's doctrine was heretical and, therefore, should be grouped with all other heresies.

Ron