Thank you for the article "Does God Love the Sinner and Hate the Sin?". I've never really thought of this statment that I've heard many times. I didn't get to read the article originally posted here because it doesn't seem to be accessible anymore, but I got the gist from the rest of the posts. It all rings true to what I see at my church. They are way to much into the "grace" (and the wrong grace I might add) side of things - libralism.