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J Edwards, the quote in question was about prophesying in a manner contrary to the tradition passed down from the beginning of the church, not speaking in tongues. You had better re-read the footnotes: “In Paul's time the speaking with tongues, which involved a similar kind of ecstasy, was very common” etc. Please learn what prophesying means “in context” when the ECFs use it.. Paul uses a form of ‘pneumatikos’ to describe the ‘spiritual gifts’ of v. 1 and 2, and switches to forms of ‘charisma’ in verse 4 when he starts speaking specifically of the gifts of the Spirit. In I Corinthians 14:32, Paul also uses a form of ‘pneuma’ when he says that the ‘spirits’ of the prophets are subject to the prophets. If he has in mind to contrast pagan ‘spiritual gifts’ with Christian ‘spiritual gifts’, pehraps he used pneuma to refer to a wider category so as not to identify pagan spiritual gifts as coming from grace. So? What in the world does what Paul say have to do with what the article says? People use terms in different ways and has already been pointed out to you! Here is the author’s quote once again: Not only did they try to deceive Wenamon with music, but Wenamon's idol got some help from a local charismatic prophet who was like the charismatic prophets in Canaan who "prophesied" ecstatically (spoke in unknown tongues) or in the sense of "singing with instrumental music."
Barton, George A., Archaeology and the Bible, 7Th Edition pgs 449-452 By: Kenneth Sublett Now is there such a thing as a false charismatic prophet? Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Do you really need this spelled out for you? Let me know if you do and I will pull out the old crayons. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/3stooges.gif" alt="" /> Let us know when you desire to get serious once again! You may enjoy this asset: ieSpell. It is FREE.
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