wes says[quote]I'm shocked by your quote above. To say that sin in our lives is good and helps us focus on the merits of Christ is ridiculous. [/quote] The inspired Apostle John says 1 jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. If for some wise and Holy reason God has ordained that a Saint is being harrased and overcome by sin in their life, fear not and look to thy Advocate..... Jesus Christ the righteous... Sin points me to my advocate wes :bananas: