Pilgrim says
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God has foreordained ALL THINGS, including the Fall.

Then we agree, Adams fall is a result of Gods purpose. God purposed the fall. Now do you fully understand the ramifications of that truth ?

Pilgrim says
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FYI, I am not a "guest" here and I do have authority over what is allowed including your presence on this Board

I understand that pilgrim, and you have been gracious in permitting me to post even though we don`t agree.

Here is one last article that explains what I am saying, even though it may not change anyones mind, yet I shall be vindicated as to being the only person who understands this important truth the I do...

http://www.vincentcheung.com/2005/05/31/the-author-of-sin/