Pilgrim,

Please stop attributing "willful ignorance" to my character. Let's stick to the issues, and leave the ad hominem for those not filled with the love of Christ.

To say the will cannot act on its own is not to say it's determined. Influence and dependence are not the same as determination. Are we agreed on this, or would some examples help?

I believe in the will. I'm saying you do not. The will is by definition something that chooses. That's my definition, what's yours?

Because right now you've given me the impression that will is something determined and not autonomous.

Mike