Originally Posted by Pilgrim
Originally Posted by Cranmer
My point is that your view is Arminian, while Clark's view is not.
That is preposterous and laughable, having completed my Master's Thesis, albeit many years ago, on the Canons of Dordt and with very few exceptions agree whole heartedly with it and the Synod's unanimous judgment that classic Arminianism as elucidated in the Remontrance is damnable heresy.

Methinks you are unfortunately confused and consequently make accusations and conclusions which are unwarranted and unfounded. scold

Methinks you are a Van Tilian who believes that truth is two-fold in Scripture. Scripture is univocally the very Word of God, not an "analogy" of God's revelation. The Van Tilian view is nothing more than a modified form of Neo-Orthodoxy.

Scripture is not an analogy of God's revelation. Scripture IS God's Word. Univocally.

You explicitly denied above that regeneration is a necessary proposition in the ordo salutis. If any one link in the golden chain of salvation is missing then the whole system of theology is broken.

Salvation is from beginning to end entirely a sovereign grace of God.

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (Hebrews 12:2 KJV)

Why would you continuely attack Calvinist doctrine if you are a Calvinist? If God has no control over the wills of men without violating their moral agency, how did the biblical writers write the Scriptures? The words of Scripture are the words of men but they are also the very words of God and they are exactly what God intended for us to read and know. Thus, God is the divine source of the Scriptures, yet men wrote them as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1:19-21).

I am the author of what I am writing here. Yet God is in complete control of even my thoughts and words without violating my will. Whatsoever comes to pass is ordained of God, including my words and actions. Even though I am the author of my own choices and I am fully accountable and responsible, yet nothing comes to pass apart from God's divine decree. (Isaiah 14:24; 46:10).

The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will. (Proverbs 21:1 KJV)


For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ. (1 Corinthians 2:16 NKJ)