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Please define for me what you mean by the term "affections"? Affections: the seat of one's desires, inclinations, propensities, predispositions, often in Scripture as referred to as the 'heart'. Also, have you read Clark for yourself? You certainly do not seem to understand that the biblical term "heart" is the same thing as the "mind". Surely you are not saying that emotions produce holiness? Yes, I have read Clark for myself and not someone else.  1. Heart and Personality: As representing the man himself, it was considered to be the seat of the emotions and passions and appetites (Ge 19:4; Lev 20:12; Ps 104:15), and embraced likewise the intellectual and moral faculties - though these are necessarily ascribed to the "soul" as well. This distinction is not always observed. 2. Heart and Mind: As the central organ in the body, forming a focus for its vital action, it has come to stand for the center of its moral, spiritual, intellectual life. "In particular the heart is the place in which the process of self-consciousness is carried out, in which the soul is at home with itself, and is conscious of all its doing and suffering as its own" (Oehler). Hence, it is that men of "courage" are called "men of the heart"; that the Lord is said to speak "in his heart" (Ge 8:21); that men "know in their own heart" (2Ch 26:2); that "no one considereth in his heart' (Isa 44:19 the King James Version). "Heart" in this connection is sometimes rendered "mind," as in 1Ch 14:8 ("of mine own mind," Vulgate (Jerome's Latin Bible, 390-405 A.D.) ex proprio corde, Septuagint ap' emautou); the foolish "is void of understanding," i.e. "heart" (Pr 6:32, where the Septuagint renders phrenon, Vulgate (Jerome's Latin Bible, 390-405 A.D.) cordis, Luther "der ist ein Narr"). God is represented as "searching the heart" and "trying the reins" (Jer 17:10 the King James Version). Thus, "heart" comes to stand for "conscience," for which there is no word in Hebrew, as in Job 27:6, "My heart shall not reproach me," or in Ps 34:16, "David's heart smote him"; compare Ps 37:2. From this it appears, in the words of Owen: "The heart in Scripture is variously used, sometimes for the mind and understanding, sometimes for the will, sometimes for the affections, sometimes for the conscience, sometimes for the whole soul. Generally, it denotes the whole soul of man and all the faculties of it, not absolutely, but as they are all one principle of moral operations, as they all concur in our doing of good and evil." 3. Figurative Senses: The radical corruption of human nature is clearly taught in Scripture and brought into connection with the heart. It is "uncircumcised" (Jer 9:26; Ezek 44:7; compare Acts 7:51); and "hardened" (Ex 4:21); "wicked" (Prov 26:23); "perverse" (Prov 11:20); "godless" (Job 36:13); "deceitful and desperately wicked" (Jer 17:9 the King James Version). It defiles the whole man (Matt 15:19-20); resists, as in the case of Pharaoh, the repeated call of God (Ex 7:13). There, however, the law of God is written (Rom 2:15); there the work of grace is wrought (Acts 15:9), for the "heart" may be "renewed" by grace (Ezk 36:26), because the "heart" is the seat of sin (Gen 6:5; 8:21). 4. The Heart First: We might also refer here to the command, on which both the Old Testament and New Testament revelation of love is based: "Thou shalt love Yahweh thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might" (Deut 6:5) and "And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself." (Lk 10:27); where "heart" always takes the first place, and is the term which in the New Testament rendering remains unchanged (compare Mt 22:37; Mk 12:30,33; Lk 10:27, where "heart" always takes precedence).
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Tom
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Cranmer
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:28 PM
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Cranmer
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:40 PM
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Pilgrim
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:01 PM
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Cranmer
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:49 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:14 PM
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Cranmer
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:26 PM
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Pilgrim
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:48 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:35 AM
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Pilgrim
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:25 AM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:02 PM
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Pilgrim
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:17 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:30 PM
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Pilgrim
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 PM
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Tom
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Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:47 AM
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Cranmer
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:48 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:31 PM
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chestnutmare
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:18 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:22 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:25 PM
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Robert B Foster
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:40 AM
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Pilgrim
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:24 AM
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Robert B Foster
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:51 PM
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Greg Bowman
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Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:36 AM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:07 AM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:23 AM
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Cranmer
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:34 PM
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Pilgrim
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:46 PM
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Cranmer
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Pilgrim
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:44 PM
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Tom
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Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:47 AM
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Tom
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Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:58 AM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 PM
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Cranmer
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:18 PM
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Pilgrim
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:40 PM
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chestnutmare
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:27 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:15 PM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:19 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:49 PM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:57 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:54 PM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:08 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:26 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:41 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:45 PM
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Cranmer
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:47 PM
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Robert B Foster
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Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:03 PM
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042Dave
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:35 AM
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brightfame52
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:55 PM
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Pilgrim
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brightfame52
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Pilgrim
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Tom
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:53 AM
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brightfame52
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:56 AM
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Pilgrim
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brightfame52
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:55 PM
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Pilgrim
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:52 PM
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brightfame52
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:04 PM
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Pilgrim
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brightfame52
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Pilgrim
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brightfame52
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Pilgrim
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brightfame52
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brightfame52
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Andy
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brightfame52
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