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#1884 Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:46 PM
Having been reformed for a while now, and havinf taken Soteriology in an arminian-credobaptist Bible college, it seems to me the question boils down to this...<br><br>Who controls the efficacy of salvation?<br><br>A) Man's will<br><br>or<br><br>B) God's grace<br><br>The sovreignty issue basically boils down to the same notion. Does God save, or only attempt to save? Does God attempt to save all mankind ineffectually, or effectually save those He chooses? I have never heard arminians explain how substitutionary atonement is only an attempt to save.<br><br><br>God bless,<br><br>william

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averagefellar,<br><br>This might be something you could appreciate and use: By Grace, Alone?<br><br>In that Grace,

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Pilgrim #1886 Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:41 PM
Exactly. I attend General Baptist Bible college. These folks are extremely arminian. A few listen to my "rantings", but a majority either become hostile, or refuse to listen any longer, or both. Most will probably be glad I'm gone after this semester. [img]" alt="clapping" title="clapping[/img] Needless to say, soteriology has been interesting this semester. That was a good article. I found my way here from the charismatic articles, and saw a message board was available. Thanks. Keep up the good work, ya'll.<br><br><br>God bless,<br><br>william

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